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Author Topic:   YHWH, Yahweh, Jehovah, adonai, lord, elohim, god, allah, Allah thread.
SAMBEE
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Message 262 of 298 (456907)
02-20-2008 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by zephyr
10-05-2003 11:41 PM


Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,it is a well known fact that Allah is a pagan deity that was worshiped by ishmael and his mother they were not hebrews.This is why ishmael was cast out he would not worship the true elohim Yahweh this is why the promise was given to isaac a hebrew.Here is a link that shows who and what Allah really is.
Sambee...
ALLAH, the Moon God

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SAMBEE
Junior Member (Idle past 5858 days)
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From: Alabama
Joined: 11-19-2007


Message 264 of 298 (457154)
02-21-2008 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Chiroptera
02-20-2008 4:43 PM


Re: Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,Chiroptera here are the facts on Allah and some of the teachings of the Koran.Instead of silly remarks read the information then we can debate both sides.
Sambee...
First link [Allah] http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm
Second link[Koran] http://www.bible.ca/.../islam-koran-fairy-tales-dr-morey.htm
"Seeing you have not been giving the facts read them"
Edited by SAMBEE, : No reason given.

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SAMBEE
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Message 266 of 298 (457177)
02-21-2008 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Brian
02-21-2008 3:53 PM


Re: Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,Brian Ishmael was half hebrew his mother was an egyptian,what I typed should have read ishmael was half hebrew and his mother was not hebrew.Ishmael was named by Yahweh{Gen 16:11} the name ishmael means may elohim hear.Yahweh heard the cry of Hagar in the desert and thus the child is named ishmael.
Sambee...

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SAMBEE
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From: Alabama
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Message 269 of 298 (457186)
02-21-2008 5:36 PM
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02-21-2008 4:52 PM


The false name Jehovah
Shalom,here is a link that exposes the falsehood of the name Jehovah,I will be doing a study on all names and titles listed on this topic.
Sambee...
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SAMBEE
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From: Alabama
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Message 270 of 298 (457190)
02-21-2008 5:42 PM
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02-21-2008 5:35 PM


Re: Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,Modulous I fully agree with your post I will check out the other thresds thanks.
Sambee...

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SAMBEE
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Message 271 of 298 (457223)
02-21-2008 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Chiroptera
02-21-2008 5:32 PM


Re: Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,Chiroptera I seem to get the impression that you are a evolutionist,so do you think you came to be by way of an ape?I just want to know were you stand on the subject.If I posted academic literature would that make things more credible for you? what institution would you like? also there is no pro-islam or anti-evolution in the links I posted its historical fact.I will list some links and input from various colleges.
Sambee...

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SAMBEE
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Posts: 18
From: Alabama
Joined: 11-19-2007


Message 273 of 298 (457316)
02-22-2008 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Chiroptera
02-21-2008 7:53 PM


Re: Moon god Allah is pagan
Shalom,Chiroptera looking back over the links I posted they do have references of who and where the information was taken.So is it that you dispute the academic background of the archeologist and there findings because the credintials would be the degree one holds that makes him/her an archeologist.Are you aware that archeology is the study of old buried remains to learn about the past? thus this gives us a history of the past.They obtain there facts by what they find translating manuscripts cross referencing what has already been found by archeologist before them is how they come to a conclusion.
Sambee...
P.S. you did not answer my question in the last post.

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SAMBEE
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Posts: 18
From: Alabama
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Message 281 of 298 (459369)
03-06-2008 12:34 PM


How the name Yahweh was lost.
Shalom,all I will try to shed light on this topic has anyone thought about who forgot Yahweh's name? Reading my bible I came across were Yahweh warned his people not to worship the elohim of the Canaanites.They are[Exodus23:32-33 Deuteronomy12:29-32 Deuteronomy30:17-20]these are just a few but I noticed in deuteronomy 8:19 which reads {Deut 8:19 And it shall be,If thou do at all forget Yahweh thy Elohim and walk after other elohim and serve them,and worship them,I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.}
So when did Israyl forget Yahweh? first lets look at the deity Baal,Baal:common Canaanite word for "master,lord",was one of the chief male deities of the Canaanite pantheon.This is taken from Unger's Bible Dictionary page 112;now lets see what happens to Israyl after the death of King Solomon his kingdom is divied ten tribes are given to Yeroboam,the son of Nebat this is the Northern Kingdom Israyl which went north into the land of the Canaanites and forgot the name of their Elohim Yahweh.This can be proven by comparing the Elohist Source which was written by Israyl to the Yahwist or "J" Source which was written by Yudah this source is the oldest text and uses the name YHWH throughout it.
The two remaning tribes are given to Rehoboam the son of Solomon they formed the Southern Kingdom,they did not mix with the Canaanites.In fact Solomon loses the kingdom and causes them to be spilt due to pagan worship this is found in [1Kings 11:5-8 and verse 11]now in [1Kings22:2] we find these two kingdoms dicussing waging war against the Arameans the Northern Kingdom and Southern Kingdom were allies through marriage despite them being at war among themsleves.After the death of Rehoboam the story picks up Yahshaphat now king of the southern kingdom prays to Yahweh about going to war but Ahab king of the northern kingdom and his 400hrd prophets pray to Baal-Adonai-Lord to the point which Yahshaphat asked if there still remained a prophet of Yahweh among Israyl the Northern Kingdom only one was found and he was hated.
This can be found in 1Kings22:5-8.
Sambee...
hope this helps.

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SAMBEE
Junior Member (Idle past 5858 days)
Posts: 18
From: Alabama
Joined: 11-19-2007


Message 283 of 298 (459848)
03-10-2008 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 282 by Buzsaw
03-08-2008 5:10 PM


Re: How the name Yahweh was lost.
Shalom,Buzsaw your reply is very much so true and thanks for the input.Also there is no "J" in hebrew so the name could not be Jehovah this letter "J" is only some 300hrd yrs old were as the Torah is 3,313yrs old.
Sambee...

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SAMBEE
Junior Member (Idle past 5858 days)
Posts: 18
From: Alabama
Joined: 11-19-2007


Message 284 of 298 (460183)
03-13-2008 9:00 AM


Elohim
Shalom,the word Elohim in hebrew means Mighty One(s) and not god.{Psalm63:1} O Elohim,{Mighty One}thou art my Elohim{Mighty One};early will I seek thee:my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land,where no water is;
Sambee...

  
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