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Author Topic:   Darwin's Greatest Mistake?
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Message 9 of 24 (108387)
05-15-2004 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Brad McFall
05-15-2004 11:12 AM


Reference Please
Could you give the Eldrige works that you are referring to with a small quote? It is hard to understand what you are getting to. It doesn't seem that it is likely to be a part of the book that this reviewer is discussing.
Thanks for the reference to the book. It sounds useful.

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Message 10 of 24 (108388)
05-15-2004 11:21 AM
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05-15-2004 10:51 AM


Progress?
The people that today are Creationists, would most likely make the error of seeing Evolution, as you suggest, as Progress. But instead of opposing Evolution, would they be more likely to instead support Evolution?
It seems to me, from what is posted at this site, that most creationists carry the popular misconception that evolution is "progress" already.

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Message 14 of 24 (108394)
05-15-2004 11:45 AM
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05-15-2004 11:30 AM


would they?
But, if the Title had said Ascent rather that Descent, do you think they would still oppose Evolution?
Yes. They will not be conected to the "animals" even if "above" them.
It is part of the contradictions they carry around. We are "imbued" with an imortal soul but they act as if that can't be the case if we have any physical connection to the "beasts". Since when did the soul depend on how the body arises?

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Message 22 of 24 (128114)
07-27-2004 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Bushido
07-27-2004 12:17 PM


Re: Faith is on Both Sides of the Double Edged Sword
they would see that BOTH evolutionists and creationists have well backed scientific arguements which, in their purity, are not illogical assumptions
It isn't appropriate in this thread -- the topic is "Darwin's Greatest Mistake" -- but I would like you to propse a thread on the creationists well-backed scientific arguements. Haven't seen them yet.
Both sides of this arguement require a degree of faith. It is impossible to beleive in either theory without this.
This is yet another interesting topic to propose. I'd love to see the list of things that must be taken of faith by the biologists.
If this:
but also must require a certain amount of faith within their belefief evolution (chance) has created something out of nothing.
is an example you have it very wrong. That is not a belief of biolgists involved with the evolution. Biological evolution is not a theory about chance creating something out of nothing. All that tells me is that you are discussing something without knowing enough about it.
Separately from that, the mechanisms of biological evolution have been shown, conclusively, to be capable of "creating" the kinds of patterns necessary for and shown to be in biologically evolved things. Again, you can't discuss things you know little about.
BTW, welcome to the forum. You'll find people reasonably hospitable (or else) as long as you are but you will not find people overly gentle if you haven't thought things through and can't back up what you say.

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