The Problems with Evolution - Cambrian Explosion

Really? Because, last I checked, I haven't seen a gazelle chased accross the plains of the Sarengetti by a giant ameoba........

You don't think that there's bacteria on the plains of the Serengeti?

Of course there are.......there are Zebra there too, but neither bacteria or zebra have the same ecological niche as the lion. Hence, the ecological niche the lion fits in to is multi-cell exclusive.

You mean, as an apex predator?The problem for you is that even apex predators get sick and die and are digested... by bacteria. "And every animal in its kind; gets bit by those who come behind."

No, as a wheelbarrow......YES, as an apex predator....... And bacteria get destroyed by white blood cells produced by the bodies of multi-celled life forms.......and "The Circle of Life" starts playing in the background.......doesn't change the fact that there are multi-cell exclusive eco niches. If there weren't, there'd be no multi-celled creatures.

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Rusty, Every single multicellular species provides multiple niches for unicellular oreganisms in & on their own bodies. It therefore stands to reason that there are more niches occupied by unicellular organisms than there are multicellular species.Mark

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Rusty, No, these facts do not argue for a mode of aquisition for eyes at all, not ID, nor evolution. The facts argue for a causal impetus for the Cambrian explosion, which is what you asked for.Mark

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50,000,000 years is significant even in geological terms. And this is only the earliest that WE HAVE FOUND. This sort of fossil is rare.No, the idea of the Cambrian Explosion as the "sudden" origin of phyla is dead, dead, dead.

or cut it down to a reasonable length. It's too long. Great sentiment but too long.

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Correct. However Rusty did (originally) ask for ecological niches that the unicellular life in pre-multicellular was occupying - the existence of multi-cellular life as a niche for unicellular is therefor tangential to the subject question.

gotta love that reliance on incredulity instead of facts ... so: you are claiming to no gazelle has ever died of an infectious disease caused by amoebae? Must be you are looking for "runs" in the wrong place ...

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Parasite is an eco niche ALSO filled by multi-celled life.

So, no eyes evolving (despite the ENORMOUS advantage they apparently provided) over the course of 3 billion years.......followed by the eye evolving 35 times in the course of a couple of 100 million years DOESN'T suggest something more than naturalistic evolution going on?It's really not suprising that the eye didn't evolve for 3 billion years, given the complexity of even a small photosensitive spot........what's suprising is that it then proceeded to evolve 35 times in a few geological instances, and that every animal on the face of the earth today who could use vision, HAS vision. This is not in line at all with gradualistic evolution.Think of it in terms of technological innovation.......if a car company produced an engine that ran on water, and then 50 years later you see that ALL cars in production have a water-based engine, are you going to assume that each car company independantly developed its own water-based engine, or that all water-based engines were the result of that initial model?This message has been edited by RustyShackelford, 11-06-2004 05:46 PM

Isn't 50 million years BY DEFINITION a geological instant?

No, just like I'm not claiming that no ameoba has ever been killed by a gazelle's immune system........but that doesn't make an ameoba an apex predator.