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Author Topic:   Evolution: a red herring?
Percy
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Message 3 of 120 (377278)
01-15-2007 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by limbosis
01-15-2007 7:14 PM


The problem with your request for speculation about the possibility that evolution is false is that you say nothing about what happened to the evidence for evolution. Are we supposed to forget it? Pretend it doesn't exist?
Why don't you ask us to speculate about the possibility that gravity is false? Or that Newton's laws of motion are false? There's as much evidence for them as for evolution. So okay, I'm pretending they're false. What happened to the evidence? Am I supposed to imagine that I actually floated around my whole life? That billiard balls never really reacted equally and oppositely into their pockets?
Now pretending that evolution is false, what happened to the evidence? Am I supposed to imagine a world in which HIV and the flu virus don't evolve every year? A world where breeding doesn't actually work and where characteristics are not passed on to offspring? A world where DNA is not actually the basis of heredity? A world where fossils do not fit into a nested classification hierarchy? A world where adaptive radiation never takes place?
Until you answer the question of what happened to the evidence, I don't see how your request can even be approached, let alone addressed.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 14 of 120 (377354)
01-16-2007 12:46 PM
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01-16-2007 4:11 AM


limbosis writes:
This thread is directed toward the creationist POV.
Well, okay, best of luck!
The rest of your post is just an argument against evolution that has a lot of potential to draw the thread off-topic.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 49 of 120 (377872)
01-18-2007 6:54 PM
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01-18-2007 3:01 PM


Re: the population dilemma
limbosis writes:
Then, I suppose it's just another coincidence that Galton and Darwin were actually COUSINS, for christ sake!
And Billy Carter the buffoon was Jimmy Carter's brother. And Whitey Bulger the criminal on the lam is the brother of Billy Bulger, former president of the Massachusetts State Senate and former president of the University of Massachusetts.
You need to show how the ideas of evolution drew upon the ideas of Galton, and how they are racist in nature rather than an accurate theory of how the world really works. Since the data and ideas that led Darwin to formulate his theory were drawn from a round-the-world voyage of the HMS Beagle that ended in 1836 when Galton was just 14, the likelihood of a flow of ideas from Galton to Darwin seems slim to say the least.
--Percy

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