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Author Topic:   An Open Letter to my Secular Humanist Colleagues
mark24
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Message 12 of 47 (406080)
06-16-2007 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Grizz
06-16-2007 12:26 PM


Grizz,
On the public front many prominent secular humanists have taken center stage as the High Priests of reason and are apparently speaking for us all.
Where do they "apparently" speak for us all?
Mark
Edited by mark24, : spelling

There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

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mark24
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Message 17 of 47 (406115)
06-17-2007 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by ICANT
06-16-2007 11:56 PM


Re: Re-feeling
ICAN'T,
I came to those conclusions because of what I read, not what I was told, not because I had a feeling.
You believe everything you read? No, of course you don't, you had an irrational "feeling" based upon the faulty logic of your previous post. It must have been a feeling, because it wasn't based on evidence.
Mark
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There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

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mark24
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Message 40 of 47 (406204)
06-17-2007 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by ICANT
06-17-2007 3:59 PM


Re: Re-feeling
ICANT,
I look at Genesis account of creation as evidence apparantly you do not.
Biblical Genesis is a hypothesis contradicted by science. It is not evidence of itself. That's like saying that the evidence of General Relativity is Einstein's paper on it. Or that "Origin of Species" is proof of evolution, & so on.
So, no, the book of Genesis isn't evidence, any more than all the books on science are evidence, either. In fact, you commit a logical fallacy; circular argument by even claiming such a thing. You have to make an argument of the form "I believe the biblical account because the bible is true, how do I know it's true? Because it says so". Ultimately you have to accept your conclusion in order to accept your premise.
Evidence is any data that supports a theory, so what data supports the Genesis hypothesis? Absolutely none, in fact the data contradicts it, not supports it.
So, why do you accept Genesis as being factually true? It is certainly not evidence, matey. It's a "feeling", something associated with your religions feelgood factor.
If you can have Genesis as evidence of itself, then can I have Watership Down as evidence of talking rabbits?
Mark
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