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bluegenes
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Message 46 of 100 (435113)
11-19-2007 4:27 AM
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09-24-2006 8:55 PM


Here's a timeline of Britain from the BBC. Agriculture was well under way 5,767 years ago, and the "henge" building started around 5,000 years ago, although there were ceremonial sites before that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/launch_tl_british.shtml


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Message 47 of 100 (435146)
11-19-2007 12:09 PM
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Pre Incan Temple in Peru completed before 2000 BCE
You're right.

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Message 48 of 100 (439151)
12-07-2007 2:13 PM


Mehrgarh
A small farming village in what is today Pakistan, Mehrgarh existed from about 7000BCE until around 3200 BCE, so its whole existence was prior to any of the Old Testament writings and would have been a sizable village at the time Adam was created.

Wiki article here

There is evidence that the folk knew about dentistry,


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Message 49 of 100 (440992)
12-15-2007 6:16 PM


Eridu
The Eridu culture goes back before even the Sumerian flood legend which predates the Biblical flood legend and allegedly happened even before the Biblical creation.

The oldest signs of civilization there was an agriculture community that had advanced to at least the stage of cooperative public works, for example building canal and irrigation systems. It likely dates to around 4000 BCE and may have been an offshoot or colony of the even older Samarra culture of around 5500 - 4800 BCE.


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Message 50 of 100 (441004)
12-15-2007 7:19 PM


Mammoth
Dwarf mammoths were still roaming around Wrangel Island, in the Arctic Ocean.
    
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Message 51 of 100 (444316)
12-28-2007 9:46 PM
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09-25-2006 2:09 PM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
Quote:

". . .around 6500 to 6000 years ago."

Is that dating by the 'intelligant guess' of the strata layers?


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Message 52 of 100 (444318)
12-28-2007 9:48 PM
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Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
What makes you think strata are guesses?


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Message 53 of 100 (444319)
12-28-2007 9:52 PM
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09-25-2006 2:36 PM


"Trilobites. Dinosaurs. Archaeopteryx."

Pretty much what you said, anything found in any strata layer. It's pretty much self-explanatory


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Message 54 of 100 (444322)
12-28-2007 9:53 PM
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Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
"And your evidence for that is?"

And you evidence for 6500-6000 years ago is...?


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Message 55 of 100 (444324)
12-28-2007 9:55 PM
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Re: Let's try to head back towards the topic.
"...by 4000 BCE, about 6000 years ago..."

Again, is your assumption of time based on the srata layers?


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Message 56 of 100 (444325)
12-28-2007 9:59 PM
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09-25-2006 2:47 PM


"NONE of these are found in all strata..."

Well, this is kind of off-topic, but evolutionISTS take that simple organisms are on bottom and complex on top as 'oh, they must have evolved', but think of this: What is more likely to climb to a high spot to evade a giant flood, a snail, or a fox?


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Message 57 of 100 (444327)
12-28-2007 10:03 PM
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Re: Let's try to head back towards the topic.
Actually, most dating of things from that recent are dated based on a variety of things. One great tool for things that young is radio carbon dating. In particular radiocarbon dating can be used on organic materials including the remnants of the content of things like pottery.

Position can also tell us much; unless there are signs of disturbance something found lower is usually older than something found higher.

But remember, when we are talking about things from 20-30,000 years ago we are talking recent history, and of course things from 5-6,000 years ago are almost yesterday.

It's not like we are talking about really old stuff here.


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Message 58 of 100 (444330)
12-28-2007 10:10 PM
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12-28-2007 9:48 PM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
"What makes you think strata are guesses?"

Well, if the strata were laid down quickly (which has some solid evidence*) during the Flood, then the dating is off and what you think to be even 'millions and millions of years' ago could be, simply, a few thousand (ten at most, which also has strong supporting evidence**)

*The layers are parallel, where if they were formed over 'millions of years', erosion would have made their edges crazy and non-parallel.

**To be explained later


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Message 59 of 100 (444333)
12-28-2007 10:17 PM
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12-28-2007 10:03 PM


Re: Let's try to head back towards the topic.
Ah, yesterday. I seem to actually remember yesterday being Thursday, December 27, 2007, not 5,000 years ago. That's not even yester-millenium. Sorry.

And, if the world is only 10,000 years old, then things that happened 5,000 years ago would be very acient history, and 20-30,000 years ago would be (get this) NOTHING!!!, because I believe that not even the universe was around 20,000 years ago.

Which makes me think. I went to the Grand Teton National Park earlier this year, and the woman said that those were the worlds youngest mountains, at 13 million years old. Isn't that odd that the youngest mountains are 1,300 times older than the earth itself?


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Message 60 of 100 (444334)
12-28-2007 10:21 PM
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12-28-2007 10:10 PM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
Sorry but that is simply bullshit.

Take it to some other thread.

The problem is that the idea of young earth has been falsified, it is daid, kick dirt in its face.

There is no evidence of a world-wide flood, ever. Period.

But as I said, strata are not directly involved. There are absolute methods of dating.

I do suggest that if you think any of that silly stuff can be supported, either bring it to one of the existing threads like the following and see if you can actually support such stuff.

Exploring the Grand Canyon, from the bottom up..
Unconformities and the age of the Earth: Challenge to Anti-Climacus and other YECs
Radioactive carbon dating
How to make sand.
Salt of the Earth (on salt domes and beds)
Lake Varve Sediments and the Great Flood
Conclusion vs Presupposition

Edited by jar, : add suppositions vs conclusions


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