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Author Topic:   Why Lie? (Re: Evolution frauds and hoaxes)
anglagard
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Message 129 of 346 (469716)
06-07-2008 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Dont Be a Flea
06-06-2008 11:45 PM


How About A Bit of Fun
Flea writes:
I have just had some of the most arrogant pompous asses all looking down their noses as me because I challenge what they so religiously assume. I am called "ignorant" because I have the gall to say "hey wait a minute, you are not making any logical sense." I am told to just shut up and “believe” or “trust” the experts and keep my “hillbilly” self under a rock. Evolutionists are not special ultra smart untouchable people that have a pure heart and never lie, never do things for money of fame (because they are scientist stupid) and always, always show the truth with no bias EVER. Please! The very essence of one’s world view dictates what one will pursue as truth.
Should be rewritten as:
I have just had some of the most arrogant pompous asses all looking down their noses as me because I challenge what they so religiously assume. I am called "athiest" because I have the gall to say "hey wait a minute, you are not making any logical sense." I am told to just shut up and “believe” or “trust” the fundamentalists and keep my “elitist” self under a rock. Fundamentalists are not special ultra saved untouchable people that have a pure heart and never lie, never do things for money of fame (because they are fundamentalist stupid) and always, always show the truth with no bias EVER. Please! The very essence of one’s parents or ayatollahs dictates what fundamentalists will insist is truth, regardless of evidence.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 863 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 134 of 346 (469724)
06-07-2008 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Dont Be a Flea
06-07-2008 12:32 AM


No Comparison
Flea writes:
However, the argument works both ways. Science (as it is) can be every bit as bias and stereotypical as religion. Just ask anyone that tries to oppose evolution with a different theory.
No It does not work both ways. One side has assertion and the other has evidence vetted through the most through process of scholarship that has ever existed in the history of the planet. One side often has people who purchase their degrees through diploma mills while the other has earned degrees that require years of study. One side has people who almost never read or allow any form of contradictory evidence to enter their heads (such as in your case) while the other either has or is considering all possibilities.
There is no comparison.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 863 days)
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 247 of 346 (471471)
06-17-2008 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by Minnemooseus
06-17-2008 1:15 AM


Smells Like Scientology (if not Teen Spirit)
Minnemooseus writes:
If some science fiction writer take a valid scientific concept and then goes off on some wild speculation about it that turns out to have no connection to reality, are you going to blame the originators of the valid original concept for this disconnection from reality? I certainly hope not. But that seems to be what your source and you are doing with "Nebraska Man".
Kinda reminds one of Scientology. It is a religion, founded by a science fiction writer that even has the term 'science' embedded in the name. Plus it also has Tom Cruise finding his inner arthropod on Oprah's couch.
As far as any contact with aliens goes, I hope it is more like Star Trek First Contact where it is Vulcans instead of some alien species with unresolved issues emanating from their childhood.
At any rate, sorry for the diversion, now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Edited by anglagard, : a winky guy for the satire-challenged

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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