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Author Topic:   What we must accept if we accept evolution
lfen
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Message 47 of 318 (280581)
01-21-2006 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by robinrohan
01-21-2006 10:48 AM


Re: What is robin on about?
"Supernatural" means incorporeal.
Do you include energy in incorporeal? Like magnetism, radio waves, light?
lfen

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lfen
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Message 140 of 318 (281002)
01-23-2006 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by robinrohan
01-23-2006 2:38 PM


Re: one more baby step.
If God set it in motion, then all bets are off. We could have anything. But there's a problem with this idea. If God set evolution in motion, then God is not a good God. Evolution is cruel, bloody, murderous. Life is set up in such a way that in order to survive, life forms have to feed off other life forms. It would be morally nicer if we ate dirt and rocks, although that does sound like a rather insipid diet. The YEC's offer the Fall as an explanation for Nature, but the Fall and evolution don't mix.
The Fall only pushes God's responsibility back one step. What kind of parent would a human be who left children alone with loaded guns, or matches just saying, "Now don't play with them or you will die."
The Fall as a myth is acceptable but to literally believe it is an act of self hypnotism and the victim taking the blame as we see in abuse among humans. God is not responsible we are cause we are bad and sinful. But human parents work hard to educate their children, but according to YEC'ers God writes books full of silly stories and insists we believe. The Fall does not explain suffering or evil adequately at all.
Buddhism requires a lot more study to grasp but it offers a much more penetrating insight into suffering. The Buddha spent many years grappling with that specific problem. He wasn't attempting to make sure people didn't sacrifice at competing altars and obeyed the King and the Priests. He struggled with one problem, suffering and how to be free of it.
lfen

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