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Author Topic:   Mode of the Debate: Targeting Children
ringo
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Message 18 of 45 (414630)
08-05-2007 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Straggler
08-05-2007 6:55 AM


Re: Propoganda
Straggler writes:
If I had initially been presented with two points of view on dinosaurs - one where they had been extinct for millions of years and one where they had been frollicking with cave children not too long ago - I think it quite possible I would have chosen the latter on the basis of it's appeal.
My first exposure to dinosaurs was in the Alley Oop comic strip and, later on, The Flintstones. We didn't have many books on dinosaurs back then (and they were of the brontosaurus-had-two-brains variety) but somehow I learned that humans and dinosaurs never coexisted.
I don't remeber that revelation producing any particular trauma. I never had trouble separating fact from fiction.
Years later, as a teenager, I was exposed to anti-scientific creationism. I remember my favorite pastor saying that dinosaurs never existed at all, they were a hoax. I almost expected to see a cuckoo come out of his forehead on a spring.
My brother and I used to tease our fundier cousins, telling them that there must have been dinosaurs on the ark. They vehemently argued against it. Decades later, when I found out that that's now standard creo nonsense, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
/jaunt down memory lane
Anyway, I have some confidence in the resiliency of the human mind. Targeting children with lies is vile and insidious, but I'm not convinced it's effective.

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ringo
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Message 20 of 45 (414649)
08-05-2007 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Straggler
08-05-2007 2:44 PM


Re: Propoganda
Straggler writes:
... if presented with two opposing points of view children are more likely to choose on the basis of 'appeal' rather than rationality.
I don't think children are much different from adults in that. How often do we hear adults say they'd "rather" be a child of God than related to an ape?
Adults all around will tell you that these things are not 'real'.
They never did though. I figured out for myself that talking, porridge-eating, chair-sitting bears weren't real. If anything, that fiction helped me to understand that talking snakes are fiction too.
(I suspect that a lot of creationist adults have to unlearn the discernment that they had as children.)
However even if it does not win out as a tactic in the long term there are bound to be some individual casualties of ignoarnce and that in itself is quite depressing.
And even if we had no chance of winning in the end, the fight would still be worthwhile.

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