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Author Topic:   Explanation for the inexplicable.
sidelined
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Message 1 of 10 (422407)
09-17-2007 12:25 AM


In Proof for God's Non-existance? pbee made the following statements

pbee writes:

Joshua's long day; (plausible)
Reversing Shadows; (plausible)

And why would we conclude the earth stopped rotating? I could think of all sorts of scientifically plausible methods to extend daylight without altering the movement of the planets.

Since it was the witching hour for the thread {and also off topic}
I thought I would ask for an elaboration on this statement from pbee since I am fascinated that the term plausible could ever be applied to the stories from Joshua.

So pbee {or anyone else caring to participate} I implore you to present your arguement concerning this issue to allow me a chance to understand your POV.

I suppose this could go in Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution.

Edited by sidelined, : added quotes


It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.

Charles Darwin


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Message 3 of 10 (422521)
09-17-2007 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPhat
09-17-2007 7:35 AM


Re: Narrowing and reframing this topic
Phat

I am asking pbee in particular but anyone else who may care to participate from the creationists side may also have at it.


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Message 6 of 10 (430610)
10-26-2007 10:22 AM


Joshua is waiting for a defense team here
Bump to begin discussion if anyone dares.

Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.


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Message 10 of 10 (430922)
10-28-2007 10:26 AM
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10-28-2007 6:11 AM


Re: Joshua is waiting for a defense team here
Elhardt

Obviously if something so major as to see the sun stop in the sky do to the earth's rotation changing happened, then we should expect to see other cultures also mention the event

Since Rrhain has taken care of the bulk of your points I will go to the above statement to explain that the sun stopping movement in the sky translates {in our modern knowledge of things} into the earth stopping its rotation. I had a post from many years ago wherein I gave a breakdown of the effects such an event would have.

sidlined writes:

Now it appears Tom is under some illusion of what is entailed in the physics behind a god stopping the earth and reversing the rotation.
Besides the fact that no other nation recorded this event,nor,I might add did they notice that the sun now came up on the horizon it used to set on.{Remember,the earth is never stated as being returned to its original spin.}

The earth rotates at 1000 mph at the equator. It rotates at about,say, 450 mph at the level of the Middle East.Now if you stop the earth all the people and animals and anything to varying degrees according to their composition and mass will still be rotating at 450 mph eastward.Mountains would move less as the shearing forces began to acquire sufficient energy to break and melt rock.

So basicly you would be sitting in your fields tending your sheep when you are suddenly find the ground beneath you grinding the flesh off your bones from the friction as you are now moving across it at 450 mph.The pain would be short lived as you quickly slam into a nearby hillside as it is turning into slag from the heat produced by inertial forces.Let us nor forget the wind at earths surface would now be experiencing similar disaster as it now moves at similar velocity along with you.The waters of the ocean are fluid so they would now be under some weird shifts since the gravitational forces are unbalaned towards the moon along with the surge as the oceans continued to move at the same speed.

It would be general chaos on a planetary scale.


"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Albert Einstein


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