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Message 68 of 173 (459282)
03-05-2008 2:19 PM

Reply to: Message 65 by Taz
03-05-2008 12:27 AM

Re: List o' mammals

You know what, off the top of my head I can't think of that many "kinds" of reptiles. I'd appreciate some help.

Depends on where you want to go with this.

To conserve space on the Ark and if Creationists involk super-evolution then we can wittle all reptiles to 4 "kinds":

Lizard, serpant, crock and turtle.

From your list

Anole
Chameleon
Gecko
Horned Lizard
Iquana
Skink

are all "lizard kind,"

Tortoise
Turtle

are "turtle kind."

crocks
alligators

are the "crock kind"

and finally

rattlers
boas
pipes
cobras
Satan
vipers
elapids
kraits

all "serpent kind"

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Message 71 of 173 (459358)
03-06-2008 9:51 AM

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03-06-2008 12:42 AM

Re: List o' mammals

But a croc mating with an iquana... that's a little too much to ask.

No problem. Crocs are already in the "croc kind" and iguanas are already in the "lizard kind." So we only need 4 kinds of reptillians.

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Message 75 of 173 (459385)
03-06-2008 6:38 PM

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03-06-2008 11:10 AM

Re: List o' mammals

Then what do you make of a chameleon? How about the skink? Bearded dragon?

Lizard, lizard and lizard.

I think I'd make a good creationist.

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Message 76 of 173 (459389)
03-06-2008 6:55 PM

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03-06-2008 6:28 PM

Re: List o' mammals

Snakes need at least these five kinds:

We're talking creationists here ... literal bible and all that.

Shouldn't there be Satan in the snake kind?

And why so many snake kinds? Any creationist worth their pointy little head could see that with super-duper-micro-evolution all snakekind can poof into existance in just a few months after the flud from one pair, yes? One pair, right? Snake (especially Satan) is one of the "unclean," right?

So, I think one "snake kind" is all that is necessary. All the others just grow fatter and/or longer and/or both after the flud.

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Message 89 of 173 (459781)
03-09-2008 7:58 PM

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03-08-2008 11:47 PM

5. Total volume of ark was 43,500 cubic meters. 16,000 animals were kept in an average size cage of 4,800 cubic inches, so all the animals occuped was a total of 1,200 cubic meters, leaving room for food, water, etc.

But how many of these would have been considered clean vs unclean?

Remember:

quote:
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female.

Obvious use of advanced SDGM, but that's OK.

1. Noah did not bring any sea creatures, plants or insects on the Ark.

But:

quote:
Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

There had to be lots of insects. Are you saying no ants? Spiders? Flies?

Then:

quote:
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

So where did all insect-kind come from after the flud? The book doesn't relate any additional creation after the flud. Where did all the bees and wasps and butterflies come from?

And while we're at it, as far as bees, hornets, wasps and other "flying hypodermic syringe" kinds, can you take them back? You can leave the butterflies.

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