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Author Topic:   Discussing the evidence that support creationism
ringo
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Message 133 of 301 (435750)
11-22-2007 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by theLimmitt
11-22-2007 3:12 PM


theLimmitt writes:
If you get 10 of 12 grade schoolers on a mary-go-round and have the highschool foot ball team spinning them around when they stop they will fly off and will all be spinning in the original direction of the mary-go-round.
I've done the experiment many times - both as the victim and as the perpetrator. The children fly off in a staight line until they hit something. They don't spin unless they were spinning when they were on the merry-go-round.
But, since the planets didn't exist at the Big Bang, they couldn't have had any initial spin - so Hovind's idea is irrelevant anyway.

“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels

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ringo
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Message 177 of 301 (442803)
12-22-2007 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Aquilegia753
12-22-2007 4:21 PM


Re: Thread Reopened
Aquilegia753 writes:
So, to start the cycle you need DNA, but DNA needs those 20 proteins, and those proteins need DNA. So, because both needs the other, one could logically conclude that there were either both or neither at the beginning of time....
To build trucks, you need a factory - but to build a factory, you need trucks. Therefore, God must have directly created the trucks and the factories. Is that what you're saying?

Disclaimer: The above statement is without a doubt, the most LUDICROUS, IDIOTIC AND PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WILLFUL STUPIDITY, THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN OR HEARD.

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ringo
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Message 183 of 301 (442837)
12-22-2007 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Aquilegia753
12-22-2007 5:52 PM


Re: Thread Reopened
Aquilegia753 writes:
There were trucks before factories. However, there could not have been proteins before DNA, or DNA before proteins.
It's exactly the same situation.
If there can be trucks without factories, why can't there be proteins without factories DNA?
This both implies a God and an instant creation.
Before you can come to that conclusion, you have to compare the odds. Show us your calculations of the odds for abiogenesis happening and show us your calculations of the odds for God existing.

Disclaimer: The above statement is without a doubt, the most LUDICROUS, IDIOTIC AND PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WILLFUL STUPIDITY, THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN OR HEARD.

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