new visitor with a logic question

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You can start from a point in time, i.e. right now, and continue on forever and ever. This infinite time extends both forward and backward from the present, so there is no starting point.

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That's a contradiction. If it starts from a point in time, there is nothing before that point in time. Thus, it may be an infinite ray, but it is not an infinite line.

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However, God exists outside of time and space, from eternity past right into eternity future. Since there was no beginning to eternity past, God had no 'beginning' according to our perception, and therefore was not created.

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And how did this alternate, timeless dimension, with this infinitely complex being in it, just happen come about? I mean, clearly it didn't come about at a point in time, but it nonetheless "became". Is God just a property of reality? An infinitely compex being, just a property of the universe? Please pardon me if Occam's Razor slices this concept to pieces.------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Sierpinski Triangle ... Sierpinski Sponge

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Just to nitpick, the technical terms are the Sierpinski Gasket, and the Menger Sponge. The Menger Sponge is the 3d equivalent of the Sierpinski Carpet.One of the interesting thing about all of these shapes is that they can be modeled with iterative formulae in which, using any arbitrary starting point, it will converge on various positions in the gasket/carpet/sponge. Pick a random point (x,y for the gasket and carpet; x,y,z for the sponge). Plot it. Then, pick a random corner. Average your point with the corner point. Plot it. Repeat, each time choosing a random corner.These shapes form the basis of more complex IFS (Iterative Function System) fractals; there are numerous IFS programs out there where you can change the parameters to make different IFS. It's kind of fun trying to get a particular shape (fern, maple leaf, your name, etc), especially the versions which allow you to add extra dimensions to it (color, frequency of impact), adjust the probability of choosing particular corners, scaling, and shear. Another neat thing of IFS is that you can create easy blend animations between different shapes.I've been tempted recently to make myself a literal Sierpinski Carpet carpet, perhaps recursed to depth 3.------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."[This message has been edited by Rei, 10-20-2003]

You were describing the Koch snowflake? Hmm, I must have misunderstood your description Ah, fractals are fun... ------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."