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Author Topic:   Evolution doesn't make sense.
amp1022
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Message 55 of 80 (651411)
02-07-2012 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Tangle
01-08-2012 6:38 PM


By Michael J. Behe
Michael J. Behe, Professor of Biological Sciences at Lehigh University, is author of Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution.

For example, let's look at three claims of evidence for Darwinian evolution often cited by high school textbooks. First, as the use of antibiotics has become common, mutant strains of resistant bacteria have become more common, threatening public health. Second, darkcolored variants of a certain moth species evaded predation by birds because their color matched the sooty tree trunks of industrial England. Third, the embryos of fish, amphibians, birds and mammals look virtually identical in an early stage of development, becoming different only at later stages.

http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_ksnytb81399.htm

I did not read every post in this forum so forgive me if I am a little off subject here. I just wanted to comment on this particular quote. I just noticed that there is not one single reference to a species evolving into a completely different species. I know its an old question but it has yet to be answered. Is there any example anywhere in recorded history of one species mutating into a fully separate species? I am willing to bet I won't get a single straight answer referencing an actual recorded event.


Common sense will answer most questions that science struggles with.

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amp1022
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Message 60 of 80 (651513)
02-07-2012 7:50 PM


Ok... not one single example. Even the things you all referenced do not actually have a recorded example of this happening. Can any of you give me the name of an animal that started as one animal, then became a completely different animal. As in catfish becomes seagull, or frog becomes sloth, or termite becomes turtle. Nope, I am very confident that you all will point out the millions of examples, but not actually name a single one. Why? Because the best you can do is find a bunch of similar fossils, or disfigured fossils and line them up so they look like one came from another. I can do the same thing to prove that Beach balls come from peas. Pea, jawbreaker, golf ball, baseball, softball, kickball, basketball, beach ball. All round, each one is larger and more complex than the next, yet no one has ever seen a pea evolve into a jawbreaker. Do not focus on whether or not peas become jawbreakers. DESCRIBE one of the millions of examples of one species evolving into a completely different species. Actually say the names of the animals and the records showing the evolution. Not lined up fossils but an actual recorded incident. I'm debating whether I should even bother checking back for a straight answer. I am sure you will just insult me and remind me of the millions of examples no one wants to actually describe.

You're right that you won't get a single answer, because here is a list of a dozen such records:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

I took a long look at that, its a very long record of people finding variations in species (not one species becoming another) or men producing new species by hybridization, which is not the same as evolution since that breeding would not have occurred in nature.

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