Longest Land Meridian

why? all WT would need to do is (a) provide the distance or (b) say that he has no clue and will drop the claim as he cannot confirm it.simple.

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Let's give it a go then...

Hi WT,

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Longitude: 31.134458
Latitude Start: 29.978810
Latitude End: 31.595859
Distance (miles): 111.73

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Can you confirm this measurement? Please answer YES or NO.If YES, please show your measurement and methodology, and we can move on to the next line of data.If NO, please show your measurement and methodology, and we can further examine the discrepancy.If, after all this time, your are still unable to present a measurement, we can only conclude that the initial claim was unfounded and has been shown to be false with two independent measurements.Cheers.

The title of your post infers that I am seeking a chance, and that you the "superior" are desiring to give one.If what you say is true then my validation is irrelevant.You and your supporters gave me zero acknowledgement or respect toward the voluminous evidence I posted substantiating my claims in "Proof of God" topic.We have sources for a purpose. You have none except yourself.The inescapable empirical evidence concerning the GP MEANS the center claim is correct and your micro-challenge incorrect.You had to ignore all the evidence I posted but a frickin quasi ape/human fossil ASSERTED to be human is easily deduced but the clear and spectacular GP evidence is not recognized.You are a slave to dogma as your obsession with a small controversy at best is only intended to deflect away from the evidence of "Proof of God".You seek a courtesy from me that you will not return.There is nothing further to discuss, so create your "I won" the debate post and be done with it.

Hi WillowTree,Measuring distances on a map is pretty easy to learn, and I'd be glad to help you. Would you like to work together to verify whether or not the GP is on the longest land meridian?--Percy

Please see previous message.--Percy

Hi, all!I guess we've waited long enough. I propose that this thread remain open for the next few days, say till Friday, so that everyone has a chance to post their closing comments.Everyone who's participated in this discussion is already familiar with WillowTree, and so nothing more need be said for them. These comments are for anyone who might be reading a WillowTree thread for the first time.This thread was begun to examine the claim that the Great Pyramid lies on a pole-to-pole meridian that crosses more land than any other meridian in the world. WillowTree's sources have no actual figures to support this claim, but Lindum produced figures for both the GP meridian and another meridian some distance to the west. Lindum's meridian was longer than the GP meridian by more than 300 miles.WillowTree has not reviewed the figures, saying that he doesn't know how to measure distances on a map. True or not, WillowTree is unable to support his claim, Lindum's numbers are conclusive on the point, and so WillowTree's claim fails. Conclusion: --Percy

To use WT's own words: "Empirical evidence brazenly being avoided". (from here)If WT wishes to further contend the remaining land claims pertaining to the Pyramid, I shall be happy to examine them - but with the proviso that measurements are supplied up front to support them.

Time to close this baby down. It came as no surprise this morning when WillowTree revealed in Message 55 that in addition to believing in pyramid numerology, he also believes in the Bermuda triangle, Area 51 and UFOs.--Percy

This thread is re opened. Maybe we can settle this one, rather simple and small part of the larger pyramidology discussion.Let's keep it to just the LLM. All the other issues are separate from this one.

It seems to me that there were a couple of people who thought that there was something to this pyramidology thing.WT, you've had enough time to walk from the GP to the seacoast. Have you figured out how far it is yet? That is step one.It will get easier after the first step when you've learned how to read a map.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 10-02-2004 05:47 PM

I think (but may be wrong) that all the pyramid stuff started in the "Proof of God" topic.For people like me, who haven't followed the BULK of the various pyramid discussions, could there be a summary of why anything to do with the pyramids has anything to do with belief in God?I don't care if the Great Pyramid does fall on the longest land meridian (however defined), and also falls on the longest land parallel, and also is oriented perfectly north-south and east-west, and has dimensions of perfect geometry. Proof of God? No way. Remarkable coincidences and/or a tribute to the engineering abilities of the Egyptians? Sure.Moose

If all the claims that WT's source makes about the GP were true then I would say that there is some explaining to do. Some very interesting explaining to do.If even half of them were true then we would have something for which coincidence would be a very poor excuse of an explanation. We would have a big unknown to deal with.At that point WT would do the God of the Gaps belly flop and dive in with "Goddunit" as his explanation.The issue has become WT's integrity. He posted a paragraph with a rather surprising set of claims. It appears to be difficult to check some of them but not this one. The question is does he have to honesty to defend this simple one that we can all, individually, check or not. It appears that he doesn't. If the source is wrong about this one then I'd suggest we have to check the other claims more carefully before we become awed by the apparent amazing "co incidences".I take this as a warning for anyone dealing with WT and his sources on any topic. Both are intellectually dishonest, lack manners and are really a big waste of time.

The great pyramid could not have been deliberatly sited on any meridian, since the whole system was invented long after the egyptian engineers were dead.

You miss the point, Hawk .The claim is that a line (drawn as meridians are drawn -- through the poles) that passes through the GP passes over the most land. AND that the parallel through it also passes over the most land.It doesn't matter what they are called or when the name was invented. The geometry was still there.We have shown the LLM claim to be false. We await any information that makes it possible to verify any of the other claims.WT's sources make claims for the height of the GP as well, however, it appears that it isn't possible to verify or disprove that since we can't get at any raw data. Nor, of course, can we independantly go to the GP.In the meantime WT uses this height claim as some sort of "proof" of the date of the exodus. Since his source has been shown to be wrong on one of the claims and he has never tried to deal with that use of the same source for other things is a mite iffy but the claims are separately checkable.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 10-15-2004 08:53 PM