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Author Topic:   Dinos and Humans hand in hand
Nuggin
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Message 1 of 55 (252848)
10-18-2005 7:10 PM


I'm starting this thread to save several others from spinning off topic.
Randman recently posted this link
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit1.html
It's to a site that claims to have evidence in art of mankind and dinosaurs being alive at the same time.
Yes, I know it's a crackpot site, but I think it's useful for showing how people see what they want to see. So I'm going to discuss the images seen there. Please check out the site if you wish to discuss it.
I've gone over the picture once again and have several comments.
First - Many of these have no context whatsoever. It's clay figures with no timeframe association, no cultural association. I am perfectly willing to admit that Mrs. Huffington's 6th grade art class can make figures that look like dinosaurs. What's the point?
Second - Others are clearly unclear. Several of these images are blury at best. There's one set that's a couple of lines on black background. These are the creationist ink blots, you will see what you want.
Third - The site offers a number of "points" as if they were disproving something when in fact they are just reconfirming what we already know. For the record - There were camels and elephants in N. America when people got here. There were and still are crocs in the Nile. Etc.
Fourth - Several of the "dinosaurs" are pots / pipes with long handles / spouts. A long handle is not evidence of a long necked dinosaur. It is evidence that the pot was probably put in a fire.
Fifth - The site hinges on the idea that "dragons" are in many cultures, but this is a phalacy. We have assigned the word "dragon" to the mythical creatures in different cultures mythology even though those creatures have strikingly different appearences and characteristics. Additionally, the dragons of myth talk / breath fire / fly without wings / fly with wings and have four legs / horde gold / hang out with unicorns. None of this is done by dinosaurs.
To offer up this site as evidence on par with 10 billion fossils and the entire geological profession is kind of embarising for you Randman.

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Nuggin
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Message 13 of 55 (252936)
10-19-2005 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by MangyTiger
10-18-2005 9:10 PM


Re: The Anasazi Apatosaurus Petroglyph
Great work. That's exactly the photo I was asking to see in my previous notes about context.
Notice that even in the enhanced photo, the "body" is far from clear. It could just as easily be a snake as anything else.

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Nuggin
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Message 14 of 55 (252937)
10-19-2005 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by randman
10-19-2005 12:25 AM


If Dinos then Unicorns
If you are suggesting that dinos/dragons in art imply dinos in modern history, then you must accept that European tapestries with unicorns are dipictions of a real animal as well.

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Nuggin
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Message 15 of 55 (252938)
10-19-2005 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by randman
10-19-2005 12:29 AM


So, no new info...
That link is just more of the same pictures.
The image from Australia is interesting. You are aware that there were very large reptiles living in Australia during the megafaunal when humans first arrived there?
I'm not saying that big lizards haven't been around recently. Heck, Komodo dragons are around right now

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Nuggin
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Message 20 of 55 (253024)
10-19-2005 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Yaro
10-19-2005 10:52 AM


Re: Head Binding misrepresented
Also the Inca, and with good reason.
If you are in control of the biggest empire in the world and you don't look any different than your subjects what's to stop them from pretending to be you?
You can't, at age 26, suddenly decide to fake it and be Inca if you've got a round head.

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