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jar
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Message 31 of 55 (253306)
10-20-2005 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by randman
10-20-2005 2:17 AM


Re: Where Fraud should be suspected.
No, randman, it does NOT look like a dunosaur. It looks like any of thousands of serpent glyphs. I covered that back in Message 45 and even provided a link to other similar glyphs.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 32 of 55 (253324)
10-20-2005 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by randman
10-19-2005 12:29 AM


Aboriginal art is abstract
In Message 8, randman posted a link which included the claim "The Aboriginal tribes in Australia lived with Dinosaurs." The claim is apparently based on aboriginal art.
If you knew anything about aboriginal art, you would know that it does not consist of pictures that have a life-like resemblance to actual animals.

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Zhimbo
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Message 33 of 55 (253453)
10-20-2005 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
10-18-2005 7:10 PM


I have nothing substantive to add to this debate other than to say that the link provided has brought me, as a long time fan of fringe wacko pseudoscience, tremendous joy. This ranks right up there von Daniken's Ancient Astronauts.
Thank you for adding a little bit of magic to my life.
I could just look at the 2 photos and read the adjacent text regarding the first item on page 6:
http://s8int.com/dinolit6.html
over and over and over...
Maybe I should be scared that people are capable of thinking this sort of thing is persuasive, but for now, I'm laughing.
ABE: Wait, wait! Or this!
The next image on the left is from the same book, "The Light of the Past". It shows what can only be pterosaurs flying high above.
Emphasis added.
http://s8int.com/dinolit2.html
Stop! Stop! You're killing me!
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arachnophilia
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Message 34 of 55 (253543)
10-20-2005 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Zhimbo
10-20-2005 3:30 PM


the problem with art
is that i can do this too.
the fact of the matter is that most artists are not biologists. and creatures that few people have seen do not get reproduced faithfully. so we should expect to see some downrigh funny things. i mean, what the heck is this?
i'll ive you a hint: it's a totally known creature, alive today.

אָרַח

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Message 35 of 55 (253550)
10-20-2005 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by arachnophilia
10-20-2005 9:03 PM


Re: the problem with art
A hippo maybe?

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then

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arachnophilia
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Message 36 of 55 (253551)
10-20-2005 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by MangyTiger
10-20-2005 9:42 PM


hey randman, get in here and guess
nope. let randman guess.
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Message 37 of 55 (253604)
10-21-2005 4:12 AM
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10-20-2005 9:42 PM


Re: hey randman, get in here and guess
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NosyNed
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Message 38 of 55 (253630)
10-21-2005 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by arachnophilia
10-20-2005 9:42 PM


Re: hey randman, get in here and guess
ah it's too easy. I'm pretty darn sure I know what it is.

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Message 39 of 55 (253754)
10-21-2005 4:29 PM


Where's my penny?
The Anasazi Drawing:
To me it looks like the man and the dino were drawn by different people. The man is drawn with straight lines, even his head looks square and the dino is all curvy. Plus the dino has a smiley face, come on now . the man has no features on his face at all.
I would conclude that it is fake.
The Ica stones:
Also fake. They pictures of the dinos look way too influenced by our modern (1980s-ish) depictions to be done by ancient people.
arachnophilia writes:
what the heck is this? . .. i'll ive you a hint: it's a totally known creature, alive today.
What is it already!?
Mokele-mbembe
I think this guy is running around out there. But I don’t think that a modern sauropod would discredit the ToE very much, if at all. Opinions?
Here is the story on Mokele-mbembe. This part, if true, is convincing to me.
quote:
To lend support to the theory that Mokele-mbembe is a remnant of the dinosauria, the pygmies have been given a certain test many times over. The test involves a group of pictures of animals that live in the area. The pygmies would recognize the drawings of leopards, gorillas, and elephants, among other creatures. After this, they would be shown a depiction of a typical sauropod. The pygmies usually replied with a simple, instantaneous reply, "It's Mokele-mbembe!"
Giants (non-human)
Check out this giantology site. There’s some cool pictures and videos on there. Does everyone think the tsunami video is a hoax? It looks pretty bad to me, but I do wonder what implications, if any, something like this could have on the ToE. Any ideas?

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arachnophilia
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Message 40 of 55 (253848)
10-21-2005 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by New Cat's Eye
10-21-2005 4:29 PM


Re: Where's my penny?
arachnophilia writes:
what the heck is this? . .. i'll ive you a hint: it's a totally known creature, alive today.
What is it already!?
NosyNed writes:
ah it's too easy. I'm pretty darn sure I know what it is.
alright, randman neglected to answer, which means he probably knows what it is. BOTH artistic images are depictions of the biblical story of jonah, and the whale that swallowed him.
(technically it's a "great fish" but these depictions are based of the christian traditions of the whale.)
jonah's whale is depicted in just about every way you could possibly think. some look like tradition sea serpents. some look like wild boars with wings and no hind legs. some look remarkably like a kronosaur (the bones pictured).
the problem with art is that it's NOT photographic. even photographs can lie -- but the people who drew and scultpted and painted jonah's whale had probably never seen one even once. whales lived out in the ocean, a mysterious and seldom seen beast.
and so when people wanted to draw one -- well, they made stuff up. and by chance, some of these made up creatures look like some stuff that really did exist -- but some like that second whale do not.
Mokele-mbembe
i hold out hope for mokele mbembe. personally, i want to run a different experiment on the natives. we know from paleontology how a sauropod stood, and walked, and held its head and tail. i want to show them the two pictures -- the old classic brontosaur dragging its tail and living in water, and the newer more accurate plain-based sauropod with it's tail in the air.
if they choose the outdated one, it's probable that they're just making it up. which would be a shame really, but it would make a lot more sense -- the jungle is no place for a sauropod.

אָרַח

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Yaro
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Message 41 of 55 (253852)
10-21-2005 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by arachnophilia
10-21-2005 7:04 PM


Re: Where's my penny?
Arach,
Your take reminds me of this:
Durer is a badass, so his rendering comes closer to reality than most. Anyway, he drew this from eyewhitness accounts. He never saw a rhino himself. He basically heard them speak of scales, and armor plated skin, and horns. So you get the idea.
Still an awsome drawing.

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Message 42 of 55 (253858)
10-21-2005 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Yaro
10-21-2005 7:16 PM


Re: Where's my penny?
Everything Durer did kicks butt! Even his little rabbit!

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NosyNed
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Message 43 of 55 (253861)
10-21-2005 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by arachnophilia
10-21-2005 7:04 PM


Opps
Not easy enough .

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arachnophilia
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Message 44 of 55 (253931)
10-22-2005 12:42 AM
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10-21-2005 7:16 PM


Re: Where's my penny?
Durer is a badass, so his rendering comes closer to reality than most. Anyway, he drew this from eyewhitness accounts. He never saw a rhino himself. He basically heard them speak of scales, and armor plated skin, and horns. So you get the idea.
Still an awsome drawing.
yeah, that's not too bad, actually. it looks like a rhino.

אָרַח

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arachnophilia
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Message 45 of 55 (253932)
10-22-2005 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by NosyNed
10-21-2005 8:01 PM


Re: Opps
what did you think it was, out of curiousity?

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