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Vacate
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Message 112 of 142 (502740)
03-13-2009 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Sky-Writing
03-13-2009 3:16 AM


Explanations for incredible claims
If a person is looking to disprove something, they will seek out evidence to support their decision and ignore, or even be blind to evidence to the contrary.

Great point, I could not agree more.


Do I believe the weather was the same 5000 years ago as it is today? No.
And yes, that's just a belief.

Why not convert that belief into something a bit more substantial? Over at Razd's thread Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Version 1 No 3 (formerly Part III) would be a more appropriate place to explain how you support your belief.

I am quite curious how you can explain away just how different our weather needed to be 5000 years ago to give the appearance of age in all the data that Razd has provided. 650,000 layers of ice that formed in a short period of time (1 year??) but conveniently happen to look like layers of present day that each take a year to form. Needless to say this is quite an incredible claim, this isn't just different weather... its beyond belief.

I wonder how different things had to be exactly, and how incredible that so many different factors manage to correlate with present days varied dating methods. Do you just believe with no thought about it or can you actually back up your beliefs with some sort of explanation that settles such a massively complex and unlikely claim such as yours?

You expressed some scorn at my having labeled you a "Last-Thursdayist" in another thread, in all seriousness it is the only explanation I can see for your attitude on historical investigation. That or God is a trickster and screwed everything up just right.

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Vacate
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Message 117 of 142 (502781)
03-13-2009 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Sky-Writing
03-13-2009 6:34 AM


Re: Explanations for incredible claims
Like I said, I'm not going to argue about a 700,000 YO earth.
That's fine with me. I'm not concerned about what Exact year God
Created our existence.

What an interesting position to take! I had asked: Do you just believe with no thought about it and the indirect answer is yes. Then you casually insert your declaration that God created existence; as if, with no thought necessary you get to trumpet a victory.

Twenty years experience in science but you have little trouble dismissing entire fields of science as if populated by a pack of lunatics. (Invitations to hellish nightmares?) Is this how you spent your twenty years of R&D for Standard Oil; dismissing opposing viewpoints with a casual wave of the hand? I bet not.

Perhaps you should look into the fields with an open mind and actually try to "be concerned" with the science before dismissing it. I would expect that to be the proper way of learning something. A hose in a sandbox is a pretty shoddy way of conducting an experiment and if it actually produced results anything compared to annual varve deposits perhaps a geologist would have noticed by now?

If a person is looking to disprove something, they will seek out evidence to support their decision and ignore, or even be blind to evidence to the contrary.

Wise words, and thus far an excellent demonstration.


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