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Sky-Writing
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Message 106 of 142 (502725)
03-12-2009 11:46 PM
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03-12-2009 5:17 PM


Re: Theoretical Answer
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Sky-Writing
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Message 107 of 142 (502726)
03-12-2009 11:55 PM
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03-12-2009 5:17 PM


Re: Theoretical Answer
The solution is to take, say Mississippi and Louisiana (so a lot won't have to move), toss all the Creationists in there. Call it Creoland. But, make sure they get none of the benefits from science, i.e. let them wallow in what the say they want. And let them take the consequences of their belief. The USA can be the rest of the country. Borders will remain open for immigration both ways, but no Creationist evangelism will be allowed in the USA and no teaching or bringing the benefits of science will be allowed in Creoland.
How are the 48% of the US population who reject Darwinian Evolution going to fit?

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shalamabobbi
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Message 108 of 142 (502727)
03-12-2009 11:58 PM
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Sky-Writing
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Message 109 of 142 (502734)
03-13-2009 3:16 AM
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anglagard
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Message 110 of 142 (502737)
03-13-2009 3:39 AM
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The Properly Humble Answer
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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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shalamabobbi
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Message 111 of 142 (502738)
03-13-2009 4:00 AM
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Re: Theoretical Answer
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Vacate
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Message 112 of 142 (502740)
03-13-2009 4:46 AM
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Explanations for incredible claims
If a person is looking to disprove something, they will seek out evidence to support their decision and ignore, or even be blind to evidence to the contrary.
Great point, I could not agree more.
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Sky-Writing
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Message 113 of 142 (502743)
03-13-2009 6:19 AM
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Re: The Properly Humble Answer
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Sky-Writing
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Message 114 of 142 (502744)
03-13-2009 6:34 AM
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03-13-2009 4:46 AM


Re: Explanations for incredible claims
Like I said, I'm not going to argue about a 700,000 YO earth.
That's fine with me. I'm not concerned about what Exact year God
Created our existence.
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anglagard
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Message 115 of 142 (502746)
03-13-2009 6:50 AM
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Re: The Properly Humble Answer
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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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lyx2no
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Message 116 of 142 (502769)
03-13-2009 9:01 AM
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Silly Questions Abound
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Genesis 2
17 But of the ponderosa pine, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou shinniest thereof thou shalt sorely learn of thy nakedness.
18 And we all live happily ever after.

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Vacate
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Message 117 of 142 (502781)
03-13-2009 9:56 AM
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Re: Explanations for incredible claims
Like I said, I'm not going to argue about a 700,000 YO earth.
That's fine with me. I'm not concerned about what Exact year God
Created our existence.
What an interesting position to take! I had asked: Do you just believe with no thought about it and the indirect answer is yes. Then you casually insert your declaration that God created existence; as if, with no thought necessary you get to trumpet a victory.
Twenty years experience in science but you have little trouble dismissing entire fields of science as if populated by a pack of lunatics. (Invitations to hellish nightmares?) Is this how you spent your twenty years of R&D for Standard Oil; dismissing opposing viewpoints with a casual wave of the hand? I bet not.
Perhaps you should look into the fields with an open mind and actually try to "be concerned" with the science before dismissing it. I would expect that to be the proper way of learning something. A hose in a sandbox is a pretty shoddy way of conducting an experiment and if it actually produced results anything compared to annual varve deposits perhaps a geologist would have noticed by now?
If a person is looking to disprove something, they will seek out evidence to support their decision and ignore, or even be blind to evidence to the contrary.
Wise words, and thus far an excellent demonstration.

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Sarawak
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Message 118 of 142 (502797)
03-13-2009 11:45 AM
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Re: Theoretical Answer
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Sky-Writing
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Message 119 of 142 (502807)
03-13-2009 1:02 PM
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Re: Silly Questions Abound
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Sky-Writing
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Message 120 of 142 (502810)
03-13-2009 1:16 PM
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Re: Theoretical Answer
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