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Buzsaw

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Message 286 of 405 (453600)
02-03-2008 12:08 PM

Reply to: Message 280 by Son Goku
02-03-2008 10:04 AM

Re: Big Bang.

Son Goku writes:

So what Peebles is saying is that the standard model of cosmology (sometimes called the Big Bang theory) describes the universe's early life. It starts at the point when particles were 10^10 times closer to each other than they are on average today. This is roughly 13.7 billion years ago. However it does not start at the beginning of the universe.

So the standard model now is not a model inclusive of the beginning of the universe. Science has no model for how the universe began. Is that what you're saying?

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Message 367 of 405 (454953)
02-09-2008 2:15 PM

Reply to: Message 366 by Modulous
02-09-2008 1:48 PM

Re: Big Bang.

Modulous writes:

Why? We know simple things can beget complex things. Cosmology today shows us that the universe was a lot more simple in the past.

Do we have any confirmed imperical observable testable model all the way from inception to conclusion of this (simple to complex) today or ever in recorded history; ?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Message 378 of 405 (454985)
02-09-2008 4:44 PM

Reply to: Message 369 by Modulous
02-09-2008 2:17 PM

Re: Imperical Observable Models; Not Algorithmal

Modulous writes:

Buzsaw writes:

Do we have any confirmed imperical observable testable model all the way from inception to conclusion of this (simple to complex) today or ever in recorded history; ?

Yes, evolutionary algorithms are simple and can produce complexity from simple beginnings.

Merriam Webster definition of algorithms:

a procedure for solving a mathematical problem (as of finding the greatest common divisor) in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation; broadly : a step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end especially by a computer

I don't understand proceedural matmatical algorithms as imperical and observable models

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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