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Joe Meert
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Message 3 of 46 (6350)
03-08-2002 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by quicksink
03-08-2002 11:37 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by quicksink:
[B]if the laws of physics were created at the moment of the big bang, wouldn't that mean that all time was decided from that point forward? if you think about it, the laws of physics have total control over every inanimate object- they move it- they make it- they destroy it. [/QUOTE]
JM: Well, not necessarily. The 'laws of physics' may have existed....well I hate to use the word but here goes...before the Big bang. In other words, our Universe may have come about simply because these 'laws' are able to produce a stable universe. Your assertion regarding time is absolutely correct. Time began at the instant of the BB (hence my reluctance to use the word 'before' earlier). As far as how we measure 'time' you are also both correct and incorrect. We (here on earth) define time in terms of our reference frame. The convenient measure is one revolution around the Sun. We could therefore redefine time as we like and Einstein indicated that all time is dependent upon the reference frame of the observer.....
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Joe Meert

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5680 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 38 of 46 (12387)
06-29-2002 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by jennacreationist
06-29-2002 5:45 PM


[QUOTE]I as a Christian have a personal relationship with God.
Where is the interspecie mating?
Among other things.
Any way Gene just because I may not agree with you doesn't mean I think I'm better in any way...
Just so you know.
Jennacreationist.[/B][/QUOTE]
JM: Others have a personal relationship with Allah. Pantheists commune with God. Most religions lead naturally to a 'personal conviction' of correctness, but that does not prove anything other than you have a strong faith. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with faith, but to assert that because you truly believe that something is real and personal does not make it so. Religious conviction aside, Christianity does not make a requirement that evolution is false and that science is to be mistrusted. The bible says God created and does not say how. An all powerful God is not limited by your personal perception of the data. Evolution does not require 'interspecie mating'. Since you claim to be a biologist of sorts, I would love to see where you cribbed that definition of evolution. What has unambiguously been observed are species being isolated, breeding, and through time producing a separate species incapable of mating with its progenitors. Evolution is no more anti-God than is gravity. People who demand that you abandon scientific findings in favor of their interpretation of scripture or who ask you to abandon rational thought in favor of scripture are leading you down the slippery slope of cultism.
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Joe Meert

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