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subbie
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Message 3 of 159 (489186)
11-24-2008 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jchardy
11-24-2008 5:34 PM


Objects with mass are gravitationally attracted to one another. From time to time they get close enough to collide.
I'm afraid that before I see anything anomalous that needs to be explained, you're going to have to be more clear about what you think is anomalous and why.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 10 of 159 (489194)
11-24-2008 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by johnfolton
11-24-2008 10:34 PM


Re: Is the inflationary model of the universe true?
quote:
When Hubble first discovered the redshift anomoly he knew this supported that the earth was in the center of the universe. However Hubbles an agnostic could not accept this due it supported the creationists big bang theory. So Hubble created a different big bang senerio explanation that every point in the universe is the center to explain the stretching of the heavens.
I must say, I'm impressed at the depth of your knowledge about the mental processes of a man who died 55 years ago (although candor compels me to to admit that my impression is tempered by your apparent near-ignorance of basic grammar and spelling). Do you have any evidence that these were in fact Hubble's actual mental processes? Or is this simply your self-serving take on what you'd like him to have thought?
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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 16 of 159 (489201)
11-24-2008 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by johnfolton
11-24-2008 11:31 PM


Re: Is the inflationary model of the universe true?
quote:
After you watch the discussion video ask yourself the question is the earth the center of the universe or is every point the center of the universe. Its a known fact that Hubble was an agnostic. right?
If all you have for evidence is a "discussion video," you have answered my question to my satisfaction.
I do not know for a fact that Hubble was an agnostic; I've never found the matter of sufficient importance to look into it. However, even if I were to assume arguendo that he was, that wouldn't be nearly enough for me to conclude that any of the ridiculous thoughts or motives you attribute to him were in fact his.
Unless you have some actual evidence in response, I shall assume that your claims are as devoid of foundation as nearly everything else you have ever said in this forum.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 18 of 159 (489203)
11-25-2008 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by johnfolton
11-24-2008 11:53 PM


Re: Is the inflationary model of the universe true?
quote:
The video explains Hubbles willful ignorance where the facts support the earth is the center by the redshift.
P.S. Just watch the entire video then ask yourself the question if you believe the earth is the center of the universe or every point the center of the universe in respect to the stretching out of the heavens.
I'm not going to waste my time watching a video. I am asking for evidence. A video is not evidence, unless it happens to be a video of Hubble actually saying the things you attribute to him. Please advise if this is the case.
In the absence of such a claim, I am confident in dismissing your statements as the sort of delusional raving we are used to from you, and I consider this somewhat off topic discussion closed.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 84 of 159 (489403)
11-26-2008 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by godsriddle
11-26-2008 6:58 PM


Re: Redshift caused by a priori assumption
quote:
Biblical physics is extremely simple. It has no complex forms of measuring nor difficult mathematics. It is not based on the ideas of pagan Greeks - like modern science. It is based on the simple, literal words of the Bible.
Ah, I think I see the root of the problem. You are confusing physics with mysticism. One is a science, the other is woo. One is supported by evidence, the other is supported by faith, in other words the lack of evidence.
You wouldn't happen to be related to Bertot, would you?

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 90 of 159 (489411)
11-26-2008 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by godsriddle
11-26-2008 7:42 PM


Re: Redshift caused by a priori assumption
A tip:
You can't establish that your woo isn't woo with more woo.
Carry on, as I'm sure you will.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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