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Author Topic:   Black Holes Proof of Literal Hell?
Percy
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Message 2 of 78 (8225)
04-05-2002 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by techristian
04-05-2002 8:05 PM


While there is little doubt that the interior of a black hole would be extremely antogonistic toward life, if you asked Christians what hell was like I doubt they'd describe a place where time is stopped, light doesn't shine and the gravity is extreme.

By the way, the gravity at the center of a black hole is zero.

--Percy


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Percy
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Message 7 of 78 (8245)
04-06-2002 3:49 PM
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04-06-2002 2:17 PM



techristian writes:
However there were some experiments done. Just before death and right after death the weight of the subject was measured. There was a small change in mass. The "spirit" has been compared to a wind or breath of air. I will try to get more data on this experiment.

I think most people on the evolution side are going to dismiss this out of hand. A person's mass changes simply by inhaling and exhaling, then there's evaporation, sublimation and excrescence. Establishing a living human being's weight to any significant degree of accuracy would seem a fruitless task. Decay processes take over immediately at death, and gas is part of the decay product. Not to mention that hard scientific evidence for a soul would be announced on the front page of the New York Times, not hidden in obscure discussion boards.


As to time stopping or being distorted, this would create eternity. The clock would never move and the being would be stuck there.

Black holes are not eternal. The Hawking Radiation causes eventual evaporation.

But you seem to be losing sight of your original point, which I think was that black holes may be the Christian hell. Besides that your analogies didn't stand up, a volcanically active planet (or moon like Europa) with actual brimstone seems a better candidate.

--Percy


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Percy
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Message 9 of 78 (8248)
04-06-2002 4:47 PM
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04-06-2002 4:14 PM



techristian writes:
The experiment info link that I listed...

You provided a link to a discussion, not to information about the results of experimentation.


I don't need to even believe it, but others always want some kind of TANGIBLE SCIENTIFIC PROOF.

Proofs are the province of mathematics, not science. In science, think of "proof" as just another way of saying "persuasive evidence."


The whole point that I'm trying to make is that Hell is not only real, but plausible.

How does the existence of unsurvivable places make a religious concept like hell plausible as an existential reality?

--Percy


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