How did energy it self come about, before the big bang, im kinda confussed .
I just finished reading the thread thus far and I see a lot of speculation with plenty of imperical questions unanswered. That's why I believe that the 1st law of td has eternally been operative and that energy had no beginning. Eta says he knows the BB happened via a hot singularity, but he's got the biggy problem of an answer to your question relative to operative laws of physics as observed in the universe.
My ID hypothesis doesn't answer all the questions either, but at least it satisfies the td laws and the energy question you pose which the BB model does not. It also satisfies the Biblical record far more completely than the mainstream ID creationist model of a young universe, as well as the questions about design and the wondrous complexity observed, so you can
have your cake and eat it too! It is as follows:
In Jehovah God's Universe; time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw