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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I just want to add that we know it is not a matter of perception because the twin paradox has been demonstrated to work on pi-meson particles traveling at an appreciable speed of light. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
That would simply mean that he is telling the truth as he knows it. I haven't gotten around to accusing him of lying. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Modulous Member (Idle past 852 days) Posts: 7789 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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What is more likely: 1) Time actually stopped behaving as it normally does in some guys bathroom at the same time as he suffered from a brain aneurysm that caused a 'large patch of neural damage'. 2) The guy's perception of time was screwed up as a result of the aneurysm 3) They guy's memory of his shower is partly or entirely confabulated as a result of the aneurysm Considering the article you linked to speaks about how interruptions to the perception of time are relatively common, names some regions of the brain that can influence time perception and repeatable experiments that show this happening. Consider Temporal Lobe Strokes and Epilepsy.
Your brain realized it was an emergency and maximised processing - meaning you could think more thoughts, make more discriminations, make more decisions to try and maximise your dealing with the emergency leading to the illusion that time slowed down. It has a name:Tachypsychia.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3835 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: |
I think that my contribution to this topic is rather unrelated to the material of message 1 and in general to the theme of time perception distortion at the time something is happening. I think that Modulous did a nice message pertaining to that main topic theme, in message 33. My input, while not necessarily off-topic, is tangential.
To me, this refers to both points 1 and 2 in my message 22:
It has occurred to me that there might be some sort of a third part to that #1 of mine, although the rational seems to be quite convoluted (even I doubt I know what I'm talking about). Anyway, somehow my current perceptions of 10 years is influenced by the fact that I'm now much more sensitive about the end of my lifetime (I'm now 57 years old). Now I'm perceiving that the next 10 years may well be a relatively large part of my remaining life. Thus some sort of sense that time is passing too fast. In all, it's not that at the moment that I'm perceiving any sort of time distortion. Rather it's a matter of the perception of chunks of time in the past and the possible future. Well, certainly a message rating high on the babble scale. Perhaps time itself has become somewhat of a babble to me. Moose
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 252 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
If time is somehow linked to entanglement then wouldn't that mean the cosmic speed limit is not only being violated, but not even given a reach around.
![]() Is there a possibility that what we call precognition is really that some people under certain conditions having access to information that has yet to happen on a macro scale. If the brain can operate like a quantum computer then perhaps it can also experiance time on a quantum scale. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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GDR Member (Idle past 99 days) Posts: 5409 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: |
I'm not so sure. I have a couple of books on the subject. One is Biocentrism by Robert Lanza. His claim is that, "it is biology that is primary - life creates the universe and not the other way around". If he is correct then it is quite likely thhat our perceptions create our own individual reality. I'm not saying that they are correct but I contend that their ideas are worth exploring and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. I'll requote JUlian Barbour from the OP> quote: It seems to me that it is worth considering the idea that our individual perceptions form our individual reality that is distinct from everyone else's. He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Well, you do create your own individual reality in your mind. But that doesn't have any affect on the reality that exists outside of our heads.
But when you see time slowing down, that doesn't affect the time that everyone else is seeing.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
When you say "worth considering" do you mean that the idea is likely to be correct, or that there is a likely hood of great reward or insight?
Why not? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Colbard Member (Idle past 2140 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
Thanks for posting this topic about another view on time,
It is not the typical view of time but seems valid in some aspects. I tend to think of time in a slightly different way, that matter is like a boat in a stream, where we think the boat is moving because of the water rushing past the hull, but the boat is anchored, and only the river runs. So time is only one moment in the now, yet all the events of matter are governed in such a way that we perceive - action and consequence, - past and future, movement, change etc.
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