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Percy
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Message 109 of 122 (245566)
09-21-2005 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Ingvar
09-21-2005 7:42 AM


Re: No big bang, dark matter or dark energy
Ingvar writes:
"The accelerating universe" is a misinterpretation of measurings of the galaxies' radiation where Edwin Hubble found that the spectral lines are redshifted. The right explanation is that the radiation's waves are fractionally dissipating by elongation, which implies accelerated displacement of the radiation's wave-spectrum.
What does "fractionally dissipating by elongation" mean? What does "accelerated displacement of the radiation's wave-spectrum" mean?
This phenomenon was not understood but interpreted as a Doppler-velocity caused by the galaxies recession -- so Hubble multiplied the redshift-rate with the light-speed (c) and fond (1929) that all galaxies seem to move away at 500 km/s/Mpc.
Hubble's original estimate was off by around a power of 10 because of errors in his distance estimates. The current accepted estimate is around 71 km/s/Mpc.
This phenomenon was not understood but interpreted as a Doppler-velocity caused by the galaxies recession...
This is a quibble, but while analogies are often drawn to the Doppler effect, the actual cause of the redshift is interpreted to be the expansion of the universe, not the recession veolocity of the galaxies. They only appear to be receding from us because the universe between us is expanding.
It is not the universe that is expanding or accelerating, but it is the radiation's wave-spectrum that is accelerating by elongation.
How does a wave-spectrum accelerate?
Planck analyzed measurings of heat-radiation’s wavelengths-units, but transformed it to frequency-units to compare the temperature as energy per time-unit (effect). But it isn't the heat-radiation's energy (temperature) that is quantified, it is the radiation’s wave-units that are constantly displaced by the fractional rate of 6.6 x 10^-34.
The units of Planck's constant are m2kg/s. How do you go about applying this to "wave-units" (whatever they are)?
So, Hubble found but didn't understand that the radiation is displaced by the same rate that Planck found...
How are you drawing a correspondence between the Hubble constant, around 71 km/s/Mpc, and Planck's constant, which is 6.6x10-34 m2kg/s?
Dark matter is an interpretation of the misunderstood distribution of the velocity of the stars in the rotating spiral galaxies.
Measurements show that all stars have the same velocity.
Actually, measurements show that the further stars lie from the galactic center, the faster their velocity. This is because stars have a constant angular velocity (in other words, most stars of a galaxy have roughly the same orbital period about the galactic center), and so the ones furthest from the center have to cover more distance in the same period, and hence have higher velocities.
This is an unexpected result, since the gravity of the galaxies is insufficient to keep the more distant stars from flying off. It is known that a halo of matter around galaxies would exert a gravitational influence that would keep the stars from flying off, but this matter is not visible.
There are two candidates for this "dark" matter: MACHOS and WIMPS. MACHOS are Massive Compact Halo Objects, and WIMPS and Weakly Interactive Massive Particles.
--Percy

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