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zipzip Inactive Member |
One problem is that we perceive only one instant of time -- the present. Perhaps if our perspective were two instants or many instants of time simultaneously...
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Beercules Inactive Member |
Except that the nothingness you space, expands, may be finite in size and may only be 13 billion years old. So you need a vacuum before you can get a universe.
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bambooguy Inactive Member |
Right before the Big Bang, time-space was zero. Because mass warps time-space, anything of that mass has pulled time-space into a little ball around itself. This is what happens in black holes. Because their mass is above three suns, their density is infinite, and their volume is zilch, space-time is pulled into a sphere of no diameter. Essentially there isn't any space-time at a singularity, ergo zero time and zero space.
Evan P.S. I'll have to look into M-brane theories, they sound intersting.
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Dr Cresswell Inactive Member |
quote:You might find this article in Nature a good place to start. Alan
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Stevey Boy Inactive Member |
This isn't a reply to any individual, just to everyone who reads it.
Scientists cannot explain how the Big Bang came about. There was nothing before it, no space, no time, nothing. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. The Big Bang was created by God. Space and time was created along with it, plus all the solar systems etc.It's all in The Bible (a factual book written by people who were influenced by God about what to write). Check it out y'all.
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zephyr Member (Idle past 4868 days) Posts: 821 From: FOB Taji, Iraq Joined: |
quote:So the energy balance of the universe is zero. It's a quantum fluctuation that will someday end. quote:Which God? quote:There are a lot of so-called facts in the Bible that scientific advances have called into question. So the question is, do we trust a belief system that has historically given ground to real factual discoveries (heliocentric solar system, germ theory of disease, common descent of species) or do we cling to the remaining uncertainty and claim all kinds of specific knowledge whose sole basis is man's ignorance? That's what you're doing. Arguing a belief system (with many specific tenets) based on what we don't know. It doesn't hold water. [This message has been edited by zephyr, 09-17-2003]
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Rei Member (Idle past 7331 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
Yes. The bible, which includes such nice facts as talking snakes, fire-breathing crocodiles, incorrect values of Pi, and more!
I'm reminded of an article from The Onion. Something to the effect of "Mitranslated Words of Ancient Nomadic Desert Shepherd Tribe Taken At Face Value" ------------------"Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9012 From: Canada Joined: |
Stevey, this is both bad science and bad theology. If there is something that we don't know the answer to and you say "god did it" that is "God-of-the-gaps" theology.
Once upon a time this was lightening bolts and volcanoes (Zeus and Vulcan (to mix cultures) ). Then it was infectious diseases. Now it has been pushed back to the origin of the universe. If you keep trying to slide god into these gaps you get into trouble when the gap is closed. The origin of the big bang may or may not be settled in our life times but there is more understood than you think.
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Stevey Boy Inactive Member |
There is only one God.
Not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally (such as talking snakes). Many of these things are metaphors. Saying that the snake spoke could just be an easier way of explaining that the Devil used his powers to entice Eve to the apple on the tree without her knowing. Not too sure. Maybe the snake did speak.There are many things in the Bible difficult for us to comprehend. Such as the first people on Earth (up until the great flood) lived to over 900 years old. I think the Bible can be a good source of knowledge for everything that happens. Take the Bible Code for instance. Someone dscovered there is a code in the wording that predicts many disasters that have happened. Such as wars and disasters etc. I'm not too clued up on it though, so if someone else is, I'd like to hear about it. The reason I found this site was beacause I was having a conversation at work with a friend - mainly about evolution. He's convinced that we came from monkeys. I say we're not. He says because we look like them and Darwin's theory, we must be.I say God created us. It's in the Bible (the Bible is gospel). Darwin later took his theory back and repented before he died (which not many scientists know about). We are not animals, we are humans. yes, we are classed as mammals, that is just a scientific term because we have hair. Science isn't gospel. When it comes to things they can't prove, it's human's ideas.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: Well, thanks for settling that.
quote: Actually, it's because we give birth to live young. You might want to read up a bit on basic biology before denying it.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: I like this one, myself. ![]()
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PaulK Member Posts: 18047 Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Well you can start another topic if you want to discuss the Bible "code". But the simple answer is that there is no code. It's just that there are so many ways of reading these "codes" that chance guarantees that something that *looks* significant will appear.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9012 From: Canada Joined: |
There is only one God. Oh, really? How would we know that? Which one? There are lots of different ideas about gods all over the earth and through history.
Not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally (such as talking snakes). Well, we agree on that at least. How do I tell which parts should be and which shouldn't be? Is it perhaps all those parts which disagree with observastions of our world that shouldn't be? I don't know of any other way of distinguishing that isn't just "just becasue".
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1785 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Take the Bible Code for instance. Someone dscovered there is a code in the wording that predicts many disasters that have happened. Such as wars and disasters etc. I'm not too clued up on it though, so if someone else is, I'd like to hear about it. Actually the code isn't special. If you take any book of sufficient length - Moby Dick, let's say - you find the same codes, because any string of text othat's long enough will give rise to these random strings that appear to predict something (especially if you reject all the codes that predict something that didn't happen. Bet they didn't tell you about those.) Basic mathematics. Maybe you noticed that everything the Bible Code "predicted" was discovered after the "prediction" had come true, which implies that they didn't find anything but what they were specifically looking for. If somebody actually predicted an event beforehand with the code, that would be a little more impressive.
Darwin later took his theory back and repented before he died (which not many scientists know about). Urban legend. Didn't happen.
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Rei Member (Idle past 7331 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
You know, the author of the Bible Code (Michael Drosnin) once said, "When my critics find a message a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, I'll believe them."
Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick The one about JFK and Rabin's assassinations are especially good ![]() ------------------"Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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