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Lemming
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Message 1 of 59 (22424)
11-13-2002 1:05 AM


wondering if someone can tell me 2 natural Gases which ignite when put together ?
can find anything on the internet about this

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Lemming
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Message 4 of 59 (22502)
11-13-2002 12:34 PM


"At the right temperature, sodium is a gas, and it'll react quite nicely with gaseous oxygen at that temperature."
can these 2 gases be found in space ?
i'm just trying to learn not doubting any theory behind the big bang or agree i just want to broaden my knowledge....

  
Lemming
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Message 5 of 59 (22503)
11-13-2002 12:36 PM


How hard are you going to squeeze them?
that depends how hard they can be squeeze in space before there was anything there to squeeze them.....

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Lemming
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Message 7 of 59 (22520)
11-13-2002 2:56 PM
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11-13-2002 2:23 PM


nice one thing is i would like you to tell me ?

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Lemming
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Message 9 of 59 (22531)
11-13-2002 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by John
11-13-2002 3:34 PM


i saw that coming.... lol so that means there was no big bang i guess no firework show no creator it was already there
because if before there was nothing then there wouldn't have been a big bang there wouldn't have been gases rocks planets no place for a god to live nothing would have lived no nature no space no universe,
however this stuff could have already been there and the big bang was only the creation of our own solar system the rest was already there just it expanded evolved if you like
no words to support this however just it the more believeable story wouldn't you agree

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Lemming
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Message 11 of 59 (22542)
11-13-2002 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by John
11-13-2002 4:26 PM


No it doesn't. It means we don't know what happened at the moment of and before the BB.
Then why are people preaching the BB like its a fact that took place?
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Maybe you should learn a bit about physics before singing your victory song.
Why when i have only contradicted your own statements ?
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The BB was the creation of our solar system? See above
Tell me what i am meant to be looking at ?
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Lemming
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Message 14 of 59 (22607)
11-13-2002 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by joz
11-13-2002 11:10 PM


well gases go bang when ignited hence big bang when there is alot of gas, 2 gases that can ignite when put together could be a theory couldn't it ?
well i thought Scientists looked at all aspecs of the subject they was studying,i guess you didn't d'oh.... , why else would i bring it up?
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-13-2002]

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Lemming
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Message 15 of 59 (22610)
11-13-2002 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by John
11-13-2002 10:54 PM


there fore you can infer up to the moment but can not infer at the point could that means something could have happen and possibly didn't ??? ........
You think i contradicted my misunderstandings of what you think are the implications of what you said.
i think you contradicting your misunderstandings of what you think are the implications of what i said works both ways nothing clever about that ......
Physics i know enough to say you can't divide something by 0 so why are you even trying to do that if something has the value of 0 it means theres nothing however some people would like to tell me other wise i think that your that type of person

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Lemming
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Message 18 of 59 (22678)
11-14-2002 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by joz
11-13-2002 11:52 PM


lmfao
Fifteen billion years ago, the entirety of our universe was compressed into the confines of an atomic nucleus. Known as a singularity
If all matter was confined to an atomic nucleus your 2 gasses scenario is hardly very relevant is it?
what does atomic mean ? and also can something atomic be a gas? also can you have 2 types of atomic gases ?
first proposed by Einstein in 1924
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]

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Lemming
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Message 20 of 59 (22686)
11-14-2002 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by John
11-14-2002 1:23 AM


1 + -1 = 0 = -1 + 1 i agree it doesn't look right but lets do this sum under the exsistence of items
Lemmings cookies
Lemming has 1 cookie
John has -1 Cookies
Joz has a entire pack of cookies
if i was to give you john my cookie it would mean you would have 0 but i gave you a cookie so you should have 1 because you can't have -1 cookies this is where you could be wrong to have -1 cookies you must have borrowed 1 cookie and ate it but in the theory of the big bang no one has beable to rule this exsistence of anything out so its possible you could have borrow a cookie of joz now the cookie i have gave you now is in joz's hands so the maths now look like this
Lemming 0 cookies
John 0 Cookies
joz a pack + 1 cookie
So does this mean you should looking at exsistence before the BB ?

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Lemming
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Message 23 of 59 (22693)
11-14-2002 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Primordial Egg
11-14-2002 11:20 AM


am i right to say Atom's can do exactly what i did with those cookies?

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Lemming
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Message 25 of 59 (22696)
11-14-2002 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by John
11-14-2002 11:03 AM


Technically laughting your butt off is not possible unless you add other things to its conclusion lets see rotton flesh then its possible
if you add thingas to a theory that are logical its can become possible but we knew that .....
and the maths which you stated is only possible in the way i stated Right or its only logical in the way i explainned it

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Lemming
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Message 26 of 59 (22697)
11-14-2002 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Primordial Egg
11-14-2002 11:27 AM


no i didn't just do that
let me explain it this way
john had borrowed a cookie and ate it or did something to it to make in disappear this gives him 0 cookies but he had to give it back to the person who borrowed it him giving john -1 cookies
i had 1 cookie which i gave john meaning he has 1 cookie and plus i gave it him meaning he doesn't have to give me it back but because john borrowed a cookie he has now got to give that back
the reason for joz's pressence is that john borrowed his first cookie off joz and then gave back the cookie in which i gave john making the sum add up
That means you have got to look at the exsistence of something else to make what you are trying to say logical
now should you be looking at exsistence before the big bang ?
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]

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Lemming
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Message 27 of 59 (22699)
11-14-2002 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Primordial Egg
11-14-2002 11:27 AM


playing dumb and avioding or to ignore something that was perfectly Logical is totally stupid wonder if those scientists studying some of these things do what you have just done because it seems like it
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]

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Lemming
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Message 33 of 59 (22720)
11-14-2002 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by John
11-14-2002 11:46 AM


John only take part in this discussion if you have something to say you are confused in you own problem i simple added something to your sums and gave a logical meaning to them if you fail to see that then why are you taking part on this forum to understand and learn correct?????????? then pay attention and answer the question or atleast give a answer of some degree or mention a fact that i might have over looked to help me learn too

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