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CK
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Message 134 of 297 (325675)
06-24-2006 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Rob
06-24-2006 12:20 PM


Re: what debate?
Where is the full Davies quote - generally when Creationists quote something and it contains "...." there is generally something pretty important missing...

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Message 135 of 297 (325680)
06-24-2006 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Rob
06-24-2006 12:44 PM


Re: what debate?
I notice that that article relies quite heavy on the Work of Barry Setterfield - the mainstream community thinks he is a crank. Now you might say "well of course they do! Because of their world view!"
Problem is - Answers in Genesis always rejects his work. Why do you think a major creation science organization rejects his work?
Paul Davies is also mentioned that and this is what AIG had to say about his work -
Dr Russell Humphreys writes:
Paul Davies’ Nature article itself falls far short of the hype, which is much ado about nearly nothing. General Relativity has had a variable speed of light ever since 1917. For the past six years, the physics journals have had a steady trickle of variable-c theories, including some by Davies. His latest article is only peripherally about a variable c. So why all the fuss?’
So if this is all about secular bias - why aren't christian science organizations backing it?
Edited by CK, : No reason given.
Edited by Admin, : Reflects => rejects.
Edited by Admin, : why => what

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Message 146 of 297 (325737)
06-24-2006 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Rob
06-24-2006 3:22 PM


Re: what debate?
quote:
I also want to point out that it is highly unreasonable to say that creationist are biased.
not at all, creation science is bias in the sense that starts with an answer and then tries to find the science to fit - by it's very nature it does not and will consider any evidence* that does not fit the answer they require. Most of the creation "journals" require you to agree to an statement of faith before they will even consider looking at your research!

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Message 147 of 297 (325738)
06-24-2006 4:54 PM
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06-24-2006 4:44 PM


Re: what debate?
quote:
No wonder few scientists stop to seriously consider other angles on 'empericism' (thanks Percy). I mean What? Are you stupid or something? We all know that Genesis can't be true!
To be blunt in the UK at least - the evolution/creation aspect would never even occur (leaving aside many of the young researcher are christians) to someone. Creationism is a total non-starter here except with a tiny tiny minority of christians.

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Message 181 of 297 (326373)
06-26-2006 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by PetVet2Be
06-26-2006 9:31 AM


NASA writes:
Planet formation is an aspect of star formation
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petvet2be writes:
The laws of physics deny the possibility of stars forming.
Which ones? how?

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