All quotes by Son Goku:
What if I showed you an mpeg file of the cloud actually collapsing and the nuclear furnace bursting into life, such as LkHa 101 in Perseus?
Lets see it!
We've seen their birth in real time from molecular clouds.
You have not seen any such thing.
And what is with the "dumb enough" comment, it's not like us cosmologists are actively trying to fool you.
They fooled you didn’t they? Show me your data.
Yes.
Time is simply a direction within the universe and isn't absolute.
You cannot prove whether or not time is absolute. All Einstein and others were saying is that there exists no scientific way to prove a absoute reference for time. That doesn’t equate to proof that no absolute time reference exists.
Different observers will call different paths through the universe time. What's time for one observer might be an angle in space to another.
Nonsense. On this basis you can claim anything you want, anywhere, at anytime, and everyone can be right in their own eyes. Look, if you think a thing cannot be proven one way or another then, it's not a foundation for extrapolation.
With regards to the expansion of the universe I'll paste an old post from me:
Your example explained nothing. The facts are in . the universe isn’t spherical nor circular.
No, it's not a regulating force nor does it limit things. The laws of physics is simply a phrase used to describe the Classical idea of various principles which underline how the world operates.
Dream on. In one sentence you philosophically argue that the laws of physics is just a phrase. Then you define it with the phrase “various principles” which is another word for laws. And, you in no way have refuted the existence of laws governing nature.
They don't regulate it actively or anything, the simply describe it.
Then what does? You sound like you claiming that I think "phrases" govern physical things.
However the phrase "laws of physics" isn't really in use anymore.
Call the forces that govern physical action or inaction anything you want. Why are you debating semantics anyway?
Before with respect to whom?
Before: with respect to the existence of any and all known things.
Also, as I've pointed out above the universe is more like a sphere, where North-South is time.
This, is as I pointed out earlier is false.
Everywhere on the sphere matter, and the rules which go with it, exist.
There isn’t any sphere that corresponds to your imaginary construct.
The sphere itself doesn't need a beginning though.
All things must have a beginning or an explaination for not.
There is no time "before" the rules.
Nor distance nor limitations excetra. Therefore, there was at one time no RESISTANCE to the speed of light nor any expansion of matter capable of outrunning it.
The matter that absorbed the photons.
I know what you claimed. But, you haven’t explained where the photons nor the absorbing matter came from. And, furthermore, they don't refute my point anyway.
I don't understand what you mean here.
I was talking all along about the speed of light and why it is understandable to expect that at the beginning of all created things there existed no barrier to the formation of the universe as we see it today. Why? Because the regulating powers in operation today didn’t exist. The forces that we measure today are not the forces capable of forming the known universe.
Joman.
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