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Author Topic:   How do creationists explain stars?
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Message 262 of 297 (391568)
03-26-2007 1:28 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by kuresu
03-21-2007 9:36 PM


I am a creationist. The only explanation for stars I have come from Genesis.
14And God saith, `Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens, to make a separation between the day and the night, then they have been for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.

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Message 263 of 297 (391621)
03-26-2007 2:34 PM
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03-22-2007 8:21 PM


I understood you just fine. There are alot of a-holes here who worry more about how you say something than what you are actually saying. None of that stuff Taz talked about had anything to do with the subject. The appeal of this site is that everyone gets a chance to voice opinions regardless of religion, race, nationality, age, or anything else. If a 12 year old kid gets on here he/she might give Taz a challenge. Zcoder all Americans are not as illiterate as Taz and Ringo. I really enjoyed your posts and understood them.

Edited by b b, : I didn't say enough


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Message 276 of 297 (393616)
04-06-2007 12:10 AM
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04-05-2007 7:49 PM


Re: Star formation
No argument here. I agree with you Reseerve.

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Message 277 of 297 (393618)
04-06-2007 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by AZPaul3
04-05-2007 8:15 PM


Re: Stars?
Then there are the YECs. The only force recognized by YECs is “goddoneit.”

Well duh? The word Creationist wouldn't mean much without a creator would it? You have to believe in a god in order to believe in Creationism.

Up thread you will find one interesting creo fantasy about some god thingie making stars with “mature” light, meaning the creation was set in place with the new star billions of light-years away but the light pre-stretched to already be seen here on Earth less then 10,000 years later in keeping with Young Earth Creationism’s (YECs) pre-ordained timeline, complete with red shift to simulate its billions of light-years of travel.

God created man not baby. When God created things maybe he did create them mature.

Major problem here, Alcy; "Science" and "creationist" in the same sentence juxtaposed as to convey some meaningful relationship…the two terms do not play well together.

Maybe they should. Maybe you should do something to change this. I'm trying. Use science to prove God instead of disprove what he said. Creationist should not be opposed to evolution. My bible says God created Adam and Eve. It never said they were what we call homosapians. I say it's the same story. The first man would seem, going by science, to have started off as a baby. The bible says he started as a man. It's no surprise that science would also point to the first star starting at the birth. The bible again says this was not so. The bible makes alot of points that would seem hard to believe. This is because it is impossible to truly prove or disprove any of it. With all the evidence in the world that God did not create the stars (Maturely) as he said he did; if he comes back in the end science would be wrong(at least about this issue). the only way to find the truth is to wait and see. I have no problem with scientist who state probability. Because they admit that it's possible they are wrong. I just don't listen to "impossible, never happened, definitely," and "I know". That's playing God. Evidence has proven through the years to be misleading sometimes. Unless the blame lies in the Human Mind. I'm sure once we die, it all makes PERFECT sense. But til then, we are missing a piece of the puzzle which ties it all in.


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Message 280 of 297 (393880)
04-08-2007 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 279 by Alcyonian
04-06-2007 11:32 AM


Re: Stars?
I agree with you absolutely. I know the scientific explanation for star formation and was curious as to the "biblically" quoted explanation and why, per se, it should be accepted.
gen ch1 Young's Literal Translation writes:

14And God saith, `Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens, to make a separation between the day and the night, then they have been for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years,

15and they have been for luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth:' and it is so.

16And God maketh the two great luminaries, the great luminary for the rule of the day, and the small luminary -- and the stars -- for the rule of the night;


The only reason it should be accepted is belief in God. If you don't believe in him then you shouldn't accept this.

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