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TheClashFan
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Message 1 of 311 (161684)
11-19-2004 11:33 PM


From what my science teachers have told me, the Big Bang was when a small grouping of hydrogen and whatnot exploded. I am sure that that was not the only thing that happened, but here is my question. Before the Big Bang, what was there?
Understand that I am a Creationist, and a young one, but still, it seems to me that the grouping had to be IN something before it exploded and made the universe. Speaking of which, that means that the universe is IN something, correct? The Big Bang theory to me makes little sense since science can say little and prove little, though I don't doubt that the farther you go into space, the father back in time you go. Does anyone have an answer or comment to this?

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

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TheClashFan
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Message 4 of 311 (161804)
11-20-2004 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by sidelined
11-20-2004 1:06 AM


Yes, my IPS teacher says that everything there is now was in the big bang grouping, but it is still difficult to picture a grouping of elements without it being in something. Thank you for answering, however.

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

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TheClashFan
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Message 6 of 311 (161821)
11-20-2004 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Itachi Uchiha
11-20-2004 1:01 PM


Re: Things in common
I never thought of it in the manner. What an interesting perspective to have sprititual beings in another dimension. Thank you very much for such an interesting insight on it.

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TheClashFan
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Message 9 of 311 (161838)
11-20-2004 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Itachi Uchiha
11-20-2004 2:06 PM


Re: Things in common
I have only taken Algebra 1, but from what you have explained, it makes perfect sense. My mum says that your right and that she remembers reading somewhere in the Bible about God being in a place not where we are.

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TheClashFan
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Message 11 of 311 (161842)
11-20-2004 2:21 PM
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11-20-2004 2:09 PM


Re: Things in common
We know in our hearts. The hearts that belive in God even when we cannot always see or hear Him. Again, beliving is rarely seeing.

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TheClashFan
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Message 19 of 311 (161898)
11-20-2004 5:29 PM
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11-20-2004 5:26 PM


Re: Things in common
That would be a very...exciting topic. Probley would start several arguments between the athiests and the religious. I think you should

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TheClashFan
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Message 20 of 311 (161909)
11-20-2004 5:45 PM
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11-20-2004 2:23 PM


Re: Things in common
Its not our physical heart, which I am sure you are aware of, but it is where our emotions, love, and free will are found. Like our souls, I guess.

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Message 23 of 311 (161926)
11-20-2004 6:44 PM
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11-20-2004 6:06 PM


Re: Things in common
Very clever!! I agree!!!!

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TheClashFan
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Message 26 of 311 (162066)
11-21-2004 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by 1.61803
11-21-2004 11:04 AM


Re: I just dont know.
Thank you, though I understand little of what you just said. I am assuming that you have a degree or PhD in something. You are saying that we don't know what was before the Big Bang and we have little hope of finding out?

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TheClashFan
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Message 27 of 311 (162082)
11-21-2004 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by happy_atheist
11-20-2004 6:54 PM


But time is only an idea as well. Humans created time. Basicly I'm saying that perhaps there was time before the Big Bang, humans just haven't given it the right to be called time. Thank you, none the less.

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TheClashFan
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Message 29 of 311 (162085)
11-21-2004 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by crashfrog
11-21-2004 3:05 PM


Aha, but measurements are only as long as we say they are. Measurements are only the length of space that we wish to group.

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TheClashFan
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Message 32 of 311 (162092)
11-21-2004 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by lfen
11-21-2004 3:26 PM


I suppose I must rephrase my thoughts. The length of time that we think in is a creation, I suppose. I really am not sure anymore of my point, so forgive me.

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TheClashFan
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Message 34 of 311 (162130)
11-21-2004 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by happy_atheist
11-21-2004 4:24 PM


Okay...I am not nearly intelligent enough for this subject

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TheClashFan
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Message 38 of 311 (162144)
11-21-2004 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by jar
11-21-2004 8:50 PM


Re: WRONG!!!!!!!!
Lol, I agree. I think I should have been a teenager in the 80s. Thank you.

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TheClashFan
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Message 47 of 311 (162450)
11-22-2004 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by happy_atheist
11-22-2004 11:08 AM


Okay...Thank you...

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