The problem with that definition of "kind" is that creationists often implicitly use another definition - one that CAN be identiifed now. THey define macro-evolution as "evolution between kinds" and claim that it has never been observed. For that we need a definition of "kind" that would allow us to tell if "macro-evolution" had occurred. Without such a definition the creatiniost claim is just dishonest obfuscation.
I would think that if there were another definition used by creationists, and if creationists refuse to give it then it would be directly relevant to the discussion.
And exactly what issue am I suppsoed to be dodging ? My post is on the issue of the creastionist definition of "kind". You refuse to discuss that and try to change the subject.
In provide an on-topic answer to your question, we don;t know if that sort of macro-evolkution has been observed because creationists won't gice the relevant definition of "kind".