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Author Topic:   Questions Creationists Never Answer
onifre
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Message 116 of 141 (479317)
08-26-2008 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Al Barrs
08-23-2008 8:52 PM


Re: Creation, Evolution and the Bible
Don't forget that it was mortal human being who authored Genesis and put it into a very condensed format to fit it into the Bible.
This is your own take on it. You do not have any evidence that this was the case. A condensed format of what exactly? Who condensed it? Humans because they wanted to print the edited version? Or God because he felt his creation was too dumb to understand the un-condensed version? And please give references to your answers.
twelve billion years is a tiny dot in comparison to outer space time.
This is non-sensical. What is 'outerspace time'?
Answer this, is there an end to outer space? Can it go on forever? If 'yes' what does it go into? If it does end, what is holding it up? Is our solar system just an atom within God?
This too is non-sensical. The universe is not 'going into' anything. The universe is all there is and thus nothing exists 'outside' of it.
Heres the wiki definition,
Universe - Wikipedia

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onifre
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Message 124 of 141 (486698)
10-23-2008 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by wardog25
10-23-2008 12:09 PM


So why is this so troubling? There are many things about history that we just can't know.
Its troubling because its claimed as factual.
"Kind" is not definable by science standards, which is the standard used to categorize animals. In other words, is "kind" refering to for example humans, or primates, or mammals, or vertibrates etc, etc?

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onifre
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Message 126 of 141 (486704)
10-23-2008 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by wardog25
10-23-2008 6:42 PM


There are many things from history that aren't deeply specific. That doesn't mean they aren't factual.
Thus our questions.
If things in history are not understood there is a process of inquiry that takes place, we are merely applying that process to the Ark/Gilagamesh story.
All observable evidence from a geological stand point, if the date for the Flood was within the last 10,000 years, indicate that there was no global flood. Further more, if creation of ALL species takes place at a single moment in time then that would have to be one HUGE Ark, unless you define "kind" as say vertebrates. Then you can reduce the size of the Ark perhaps, and after the flood evolution from vertebrates takes place and the story starts to make sense. However, there is the enormous problem of Noah being human before vetebrates evolve.
I think the point of the OP is to expose the Ark story as nothing more than a folkloric tale. If we broke down each individual aspect of the story (i.e. Time line, geological dating, size of the Ark) we could see the problems with it.

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"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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Message 136 of 141 (486742)
10-24-2008 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by terry107
10-23-2008 11:01 PM


Re: Dinosaurs and man
Why continue to believe Darwin when everything that it predicts is wrong.
You right!!! We are all fools!!! How could anyone have missed such an obviouos piece of evidence against the theory of evolution? A rock shaped like a dino face, fuck I didn't know it was that easy to debuck 150 years worth of work.
Thanks for the pics Terry, we are all a bit dumber now because of it.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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