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Author Topic:   Do you believe in a multiverse?
Parasomnium
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Message 41 of 45 (233605)
08-16-2005 5:31 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Thor
08-15-2005 11:48 PM


Existential versus logical impossibility
Thor writes:
The multiverse concept is where an infinite number of universes exist in which everything is possible, right?
I don't think so. The term 'multiverse' is usually interpreted as "the set of all possible universes".
If the multiverse exists, then a universe that precludes the existence of the multiverse is an impossible universe and does not exist.
If, on the other hand, the multiverse does not exist, then the only remaining universe is obviously not one of the many universes in a multiverse. So one cannot reason that the multiverse does not exist because the universe is precisely the one universe - out of many possible universes - that precludes the existence of the multiverse. Whatever the reason for the non-existence of a multiverse, it's clearly not that.
But it's a curious thought to ponder: does something not exist because its existence would preclude its existence - let's call that the 'existential impossibility' - or because that very fact is a logical impossibility? In both cases it would not exist. So if it doesn't exist, then for which reason of the two?

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Parasomnium
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Message 43 of 45 (233928)
08-17-2005 3:48 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Brad McFall
08-16-2005 9:39 PM


Ik begrijp er geen snars van.
Up front, let me state that I am truly interested in what you have to say about my post. But sadly I am unable to make heads or tails of it. You post two sentences, the second of which contains no less than ninety words without any punctuation whatsoever, apart from a closing period. It's completely incomprehensible verbal diarrhea.
Brad, I really don't want to take half an hour staring at your sentences, just to try and parse them until they make sense. If you want to talk to me, please use normal language and do not try to cram so many ideas into one sentence. I am not stupid, so you can use difficult words and concepts, but please, state them in a clear manner. I know you can do it.

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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