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Can Nothing Exist?

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compmage
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Message 14 of 59 (42833)
06-13-2003 2:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by stevo3890
06-12-2003 5:18 PM

As I see it, by definition, if there is nothing then there isn't existance. So no, nothing can never exist because the act of existing makes it something. English is not capable of expressing the idea you are trying to get at.
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06-14-2003 4:55 AM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Buzsaw
06-13-2003 9:49 PM

buzsaw writes:
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If you were able to remove everything, and I do mean absolutely everything from a cubic foot of space, you would have a cubic foot of nothing.
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But you wouldn't. If you removed ABSOLUTELY everything you would have removed space as well as time. You can't have a cubic foot of space if you have removed the space. Space is something. It seems you are talking more about removing all matter but that still leaves you with space-time and energy which is not nothing.
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06-16-2003 4:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
06-14-2003 6:20 PM

buzsaw writes:
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If you could, I repeat, if you could remove absolutely everything from a cubic foot of space, including light rays, the area/space which the things occupy would still exist.
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Maybe I'm just being 'otherwise' but when I read 'absolutely everything' I take that to include absolutely everything. I do however understand what you are trying to get at.
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I still content that the question has no meaning. Nothing, by definition, can not exist.
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