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Can Nothing Exist?

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crashfrog
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Message 15 of 59 (42835)
06-13-2003 3:07 AM 		Reply to: Message 14 by compmage
06-13-2003 2:57 AM

English is not capable of expressing the idea you are trying to get at.
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Ayup, that's the problem with language. It's only an approximate descriptor.
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06-13-2003 10:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Buzsaw
06-13-2003 9:49 PM

If you were able to remove everything, and I do mean absolutely everything from a cubic foot of space, you would have a cubic foot of nothing.
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The problem with this is that it ignores findings from physics; namely that in empty vacuum there are millions of particles coming into existence and then disappearing, every instant.
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So, even in nothing, there's something just popping into existence. "Nature abhors a nothing", I guess.
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06-14-2003 2:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 27 by Syamsu
06-14-2003 3:01 AM

I guess we should just presume nothing exists, if we want to use the zero.
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But zero isn't nothing; it's just a lack of one particular something. If you have zero apples, you don't have nothing, you just have no apples. Zero apples doesn't imply a lack of anything else but apples, so zero isn't strictly nothing.
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Message 33 of 59 (42946)
06-14-2003 10:29 PM

Is this the best we have to talk about today? Whether or not nothing is something? This reminds me of a dialogue in my college newspaper entitled "Things Vs. Stuff". It was about as insightful as you can probably imagine.
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Doesn't anybody want to tell me that I'll go to hell unless I believe in their bible? Doesn't anybody want to share their latest, most damning evidence against the lie of evolution?
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