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AZPaul3
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Message 68 of 186 (386081)
02-19-2007 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by velcero
02-19-2007 11:20 AM


I'm sure the more accomplished scientists in this group will have some possibilities and hypotheses for you. What they will come down to, however is a big fat "we don't know...yet."
We have good consistent reliable theories that explain back to about t=10^-43 seconds. But trying to "see" before that has proven to be problematic.
The present hope is that some kind of Quantum Gravity theory will be able to help us understand what was happening prior to this time.
Edited by AZPaul3, : fix boo-boo

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AZPaul3
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Message 78 of 186 (386211)
02-20-2007 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
02-20-2007 12:01 AM


I see the science mechanisms you use (above) as abstract mechanisms vaguely understood by your best scientists to absolve your universe hypothesis accountability for the mysterious and philosophical (bizzare) possibilities of it. Science does not grant our hypothesis that luxury.
And there is a reason for this, Buz.
To most of us QM is as undecipherable as trying to understand women. But there are those around who do understand, if not all, great swaths of QM, though I doubt if even they can understand women.
The difference between QM and your religious speculations (they do not qualify as hypotheses) is that QM is mathematically consistent and grounded in First Principles (if you don’t know what this means then look it up) while your religious speculations are grounded in nothing but your emotions.
The two do not compare.

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