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Message 28 of 308 (95220)
03-27-2004 8:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by simple
03-26-2004 10:07 PM

arkathon
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Sorry to get a late start in this discussion but in post #1 you make this statement.
Back near the creation of our universe, it was necesary for the process of time to be set up, that the physical universe be seperated from the invisible, or spiritual one
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Care to elaborate what possesed you to come to this conclusion?
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03-27-2004 11:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 34 by simple
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Re: what posseses us
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I guess, in closing, I might ask you, where you think your bang speck came from before it grew into a speck, was it always just there?
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Let us follow up on the thought going on behind this.What do you suppose gives us evidence of the quantity we call time anyway?
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03-28-2004 1:32 AM 		Reply to: Message 38 by simple
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Re: what posseses us
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I am answering your question my friend. However I will not do your thinking for you and give you a pat little answer.If you pose the question as to what there was before the big bang initiated it is necessary for you to understand how this question is a wrong question.Again,I ask you,what gives us evidence for the quantity we call time? Please think instead of react.OK?
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03-28-2004 3:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 45 by simple
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Re: what posseses us
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Ok let us simplfy this.If the universe were to be magically frozen in position at this moment would time exist? Why or why not?
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03-28-2004 4:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 50 by simple
03-28-2004 4:08 PM

Re: redshift faced
arkathon
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You state.
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Because only a little bit of time now seperates the worlds, say, 10 years. Therefore this major merge is a lot closer that even your closest star! Which would be say, thousands of light years away
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I believe that the nearest star is on the order of 4 LY from earth in alpha centauri.
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03-29-2004 8:09 PM

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I have not be keeping up too well to this debate.Is there somewhere in all your posts where you offer some evidence that back up your assertion of a 6200 year old universe?
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03-29-2004 8:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 104 by simple
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Re: corrections
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There is a mountain of indirect evidence of a spirit universe.
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Ok just let us know about this mountain of evidence that we might ascertain for ourselves the validity of it.
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03-30-2004 8:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 106 by simple
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Re: mountains
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Personal anecdotes are not good evidence especially indirectly.You may also be unaware of how science is making inroads into the courts and showing the unreliability of witnesses.Get with the program and understand that the requirements for deciding guilt in a court of law are no where near as stringent as those required by science for investigating and interpreting evidence.
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04-03-2004 1:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 280 by simple
04-03-2004 1:13 AM

Re: perfect harmony
arkathon
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The only difference is that the light we now have is slower.
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I assume you have some method of calculating the amount by which light has slowed down over time?
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