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NosyNed
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Message 25 of 104 (483270)
09-21-2008 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Son Goku
09-21-2008 7:45 AM


Different Considerations
No, the extra dimensions of String theory arise from different considerations.
And? Don't stop there. What considerations?

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NosyNed
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Message 28 of 104 (483329)
09-21-2008 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Son Goku
09-21-2008 11:30 AM


Thanks to both Son and Cave
Thank you.
That's the first time I've had a tiny hint of what the math is like for M( etc) theory.
I know that the whole thing would be incomprehensible to me but having just a hint is good.
Can we take the next tiny step in adding a bit more detail? I know what some equations look like (Schroedinger's for example) and even understand a bit of what goes on there. What does the math we are talking about "look like"? Is it one equation? Lots? Does it have many variables, parameters? a few?

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NosyNed
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Message 32 of 104 (483369)
09-21-2008 7:44 PM
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09-21-2008 6:14 PM


Lagrangians
Funny you should ask.
Once, long, long ago I did actually have some idea and a bit of group theory too.
However, even then I had not gotten to what you are asking for. I finished an honours BSc in physics and realized that I couldn't handle any more math. And I've forgotten what I did know anyway.
Once upon a time I remember telling a doctoral student that some things had to be expressed as math. He insisted that it is possible to at least explain the concepts without it.
I happen to disagree with him. I'm wondering how far we can go without jumping headfirst into the deep end to start with?
A good example is the dimensions thing: I can understand how such a term as a d-10 may appear and need to be handled.
(btw, I did try to read a post grad text on GR on my own some years ago. It was not a great success I'm afraid. )

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Message 34 of 104 (483720)
09-23-2008 9:45 PM
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09-23-2008 9:23 PM


Making sense
I am fine with that so far. Nice step by step addition of complications Son. Thank you,
Don't stop.

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