Hmmm, not really Whatever you read about virtual particles has a good chance of simply being wrong - scientists will often make up any old crap if it helps "explain" a hard concept - believe me
Agreed. Just my undergrad take on what is clearly outside the scope of my current knowledge.
However, I've just been trying to bump that point. Notice in one of my previous posts I used the word appears; it appears to break the laws of consevation. I was hoping someone would jump on that and clear it up better for me.
So, how 'bout a quick explanation of what happens to the energy in particle/anti particle annihilation. Which will surely require more of an explanation. If you don't want to bother, cool.
scientists will often make up any old crap if it helps "explain" a hard concept - believe me
Yes, I read your previous post to Black, "magic"...? lol ;)
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If by "lost" you mean dissappears altogether then yes that would break the law of the conservation of energy.
Which is what happens to virtual particles.
It is my understanding that rather than a loss virtual particles popping into existence imply a temporary gain.
It is also my understanding that virtual particles fully adhere to conservation laws because they exist for times less than the Planck time.
However I am talking off the top of my head and, like you, I have probably exceeded the limits of knowing what I am talking about so I could be talking out of my virtual arse and be temporarily violating the conservation of nonsense.
Maybe Cavediver can explain? Or I suppose we could try and look some stuff up for ourselves.
Oh, believe me, I ALWAYS want to bother - in just about every thread here at EvC - it's just time is so limited when you run your own company. It's nearly 1am so I'll get back to this after some much needed sleep :)
I'm sorry, I don't know what that means. Any conventional explosion simply widely distributes the energy content of a volume. For all the talk of a nuclear explosion causing a loss in mass, if you summed up all the constituent elements of the explosion, never mind how far flung, no mass nor energy would be lost.
So, effectively, every isolated system is a isolated subsystem?
No. To be a subsystem it would necessarily have a relationship to another system. I'd think it goes without saying that two systems communicating their existence to each the other are not isolated from each other.
[S]eems like a creator is required to be able to have a system of such in existence.
In what way does it seem so? Are you saying imaginary constructs must have a creator? An ultimate imagineer? I'd be prone to agree.
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quote:In the natural sciences an isolated system, as contrasted with a open system, is a physical system that does not interact with its surroundings. It obeys a number of conservation laws: its total energy and mass stay constant. They cannot enter or exit, but can only move around inside. An example is in the study of spacetime, where it is assumed that asymptotically flat spacetimes exist.
Truly isolated physical systems do not exist in reality (except for the universe as a whole), because, for example, there is always gravity between a system with mass and masses elsewhere.
It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.
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However inflation is about the inflation of space itself. Why does this make one confident that there is space outside the universe? Are you saying that space is inflating into space? That doesn't seem to make sense.