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Author Topic:   The problems of big bang theory. What are they?
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Message 175 of 389 (623783)
07-13-2011 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by IamJoseph
07-13-2011 4:16 AM


Re: Problem with the big bang
There cannot be any action with one - because there was nothing yet to interact with. This says the universe did not begin with one but with a minimal duality construct and also an external, independent and precedent force applying. The precedent control factor is required because the dual entities have to be programmed to ID and interact with each other.
1. How is this a problem for the Big Bang model?
2. Why does the thing that our universe interacted with have to be intelligent?

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Message 178 of 389 (623823)
07-13-2011 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by Alfred Maddenstein
07-13-2011 3:55 PM


Re: Problem with the big bang
Now I take the Einstein's formula as the inviolable ratio of space to time, motion to rest and gravity to space and I take gravity to be synonyms with motion and be a subset of energy which is something extremely difficult to define in any way to distinguish from the same motion again.
Wouldn't it be easier to say that gravity is indistiguishable from acceleration?
To keep so much motion so densely compressed and confined in so little volume or rather an absence of volume would imply application of a terrible force. Here is the problem. The laws of physics as they stand do not allow anything like that.
Which laws would these be? I think we can all agree that such a high amount of energy in such a small volume is very unstable, but that is kind of the point of the Big Bang. In fact, such a high concentration of energy could have resulted in a breaking of the symmetry between the four fundamental forces. Also, this high amount of energy could also be the cause for the sudden inflation of the universe.
So it may not be a case of this highly energetic singularity breaking the laws of physics. Rather, it may have created them.
Also either this infinitesimal baby universe is embedded in something or what it is embedded in is nothing.
Either way, the BB model pertains to the universe once it began to expand. If my knowledge is correct, other theories such as M theory try to explain the era prior to the expansion of our universe.

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Message 231 of 389 (628622)
08-11-2011 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Portillo
08-11-2011 5:10 AM


The "problem" would be what caused the universe to come into existence.
That is not a problem for the BB theory.
Let's use something more familiar to help you understand what we are trying to say. I think we both agree that a water molecule has a beginning and a finite existence. Science has found the answer to how water forms. It is the oxidation of hydrogen. Someone may ask where the oxygen and hydrogen come from. Well, oxygen comes from fusion inside of stars and hydrogen originates, for the most part, from the condensation of energy shortly after the Big Bang. Someone may then ask where the Big Bang came from, and lacking an aswer will claim that we really don't have an answer of where water comes from.
If you wanted to, you could bring every question in science back to what came before the BB, and where the singularity came from. This includes answers that you probably have no beef with, such as the origin of a water molecule. The BB is in the same category as the origin of water. The BB model explains how the universe expanded, how matter condensed from energy, how the universe cooled down, etc. Even if we lack an answer for where the universe came from we still have a great explanation of how the universe changed after it began, and that answer is the BB model.

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