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Maartenn100 Member (Idle past 4620 days) Posts: 39 From: Belgium Antwerp Joined: |
No, do not understand me wrong. I love science, rationality and the scientific method. Because my thinking is been build with information of science. But I can't see how 'spacetime' (all events) can be seen as an event itself with a past and a future.
Beautiful discoveries in science like 'entanglement' and 'the limitspeed of light' give me the idea that we as observers (or our instruments) will put something in time and place (a particle) when we measure it, given our position. Before that, it was not localised. So it can has more positions in time given different angles. On the timeline of the observer. F.e. when you look at an object: the front will be less far in the past 'given your position' then the sides of that object. But also the front of an object, when it's large, has different events on your timeline. Because light will need time to reach your eyes when 'a pixel' of that object is positioned further away from you. But other observers will 'position' the same object on another point on their timeline. You will see it in an angle. (different events on your timeline in the past, given that angle of that 'front' of that 'object' (whole of events). But time and space itself 'just are'. Another argument (also build on solid science):All events and motion is relative, given a referencepoint. That's relativity. But 'spacetime' itself, what is the referencepoint? the Nothing Timeless and spaceless entity? (like a photon?) Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given.
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Maartenn100 Member (Idle past 4620 days) Posts: 39 From: Belgium Antwerp Joined: |
The reason why nobody in science can think about that, is because 'an observer' can not be found. It's zeropoint in the material world. It's nothing. It's always 0m/s in relation to the speed of light. It's 0 meter and 0 seconds. Timeless and Spaceless. It's a variable scientists don't like to think about.
It is = 0
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
The reason why nobody in science can think about that, is because 'an observer' can not be found. It's zeropoint in the material world. It's nothing. It's always 0m/s in relation to the speed of light. It's 0 meter and 0 seconds. Timeless and Spaceless. It's a variable scientists don't like to think about. It is = 0 No, its really not. Zero degrees latitude is still a point on the surface of the Earth...
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Maartenn100 Member (Idle past 4620 days) Posts: 39 From: Belgium Antwerp Joined: |
That's truth.
But I mean this: you can find a brain. You can find neurons, electricity etc.But you can't find 'feelings, experiences, observations, colors, music' All aspects of the world. But it is not in the material world.But its an aspect of 'the reality'. And as far as we know, these things has no influence on the material world.But I think 'observations' have there role to play: localisation in space and time. Conscousness is been represented by 'brains', 'neurons, nervecells etc. It's one material thing with two sides. A material side and an immaterial, not findable aspect. We only can find this, if we are such things. So maybe there is some other 'material' in the world. And it's is also a coin with two sides. A material side, and also an undetectable immaterial side: I suspect 'light' and electricity The position of the observer: According to our measurements, we are in "the actual moment" (for ourselves).And the actual moment is how big? (0m/0s) That's our position. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given. Edited by Maartenn100, : No reason given.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
That's truth. But I mean this: you can find a brain. You can find neurons, electricity etc.But you can't find 'feelings, experiences, observations, colors, music' All aspects of the world. But it is not in the material world.But its an aspect of 'the reality'. And as far as we know, these things has no influence on the material world.But I think 'observations' have there role to play: localisation in space and time. Conscousness is been represented by 'brains', 'neurons, nervecells etc. It's one material thing with two sides. A material side and an immaterial, not findable aspect. We only can find this, if we are such things. So maybe there is some other 'material' in the world. And it's is also a coin with two sides. A material side, and also an undetectable immaterial side: I suspect 'light' and electricity The position of the observer: According to our measurements, we are in "the actual moment" (for ourselves).And the actual moment is how big? (0m/0s) That's our position. quote: Seriously, man... type up your responses into Notepad, or Word, and get everything right that you want to say, then copy-n-paste it into the text box. Then, hit the "Preview" button and make sure everything looks like you want it to and THEN hit the "Submit" button. I saw your reply in my email and thought, I better wait a bit for his normal 5 edits to take place and that shouldn't be something that we have to do.
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Maartenn100 Member (Idle past 4620 days) Posts: 39 From: Belgium Antwerp Joined: |
yes, I know. It's because I'm dutch. My English is very bad. I must change things etc.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
CHANGE THEM BEFORE YOU SUBMIT!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
They are also all time Nobels literalists. This does not mean anything.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The universe could not have begun with a singularity because then there cannot be an action. Everything begins with a 'duality' as the minimum requirement: it takes two to tango. The BBT is just a means of bypassing the enigma of origins, else we would not be able to proceed. The BBT is a greasy bryclream kidstuff premise: if the universe is exampanding this away, it must have come from that away. That's all it is This does not mean anything. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dr. A writes:
I am starting to see a pattern... This does not mean anything.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
You mean it check mates you?
Take a singular item. Place it in a bowl of soup - oops, there is bowl or soup! Damn thing is a singularity with nothing else around. Darn - not even an observer in sight! Ahem! Not do you see why only a universe maker makes the only scientific sense here - or does not still not make any sense at all?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8562 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Take a singular item. OK. I'll take a lima bean.
Place it in a bowl of soup ... Done.
oops, there is bowl or soup! No. There is a bowl with soup in it and now with a lima bean as well.
Damn thing is a singularity with nothing else around. Darn - not even an observer in sight! What the hell you talking about? It's a bowl of soup with a lima bean in it! What singularity? I don't see any singularity. I see my bowl of soup with a lima bean floating on top!
Not do you see why only a universe maker makes the only scientific sense here ... This has nothing to do with my bowl of soup or the lima bean!
or does not still not make any sense at all? No, it doesn't. What does any of this have to do with the Big Bang or my bowl of soup? You are not making any sense at all!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
You mean it check mates you? No, I mean that it doesn't mean anything. You can kinda tell by the way I said: "This does not mean anything".
Take a singular item. Place it in a bowl of soup - oops, there is bowl or soup! Damn thing is a singularity with nothing else around. Darn - not even an observer in sight! This does not mean anything.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
A lima bean is inadmissable as a singularity. It has multi components including seeds and electrons.
try again.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I am starting to see a pattern.. of omissions.
Can be an error when fundy atheists forget to include a fulcrum verse from the Noah story - or suddenly forget what a singulairity is? Can anyone dismiss that a lie-by-omission is - surprise, surprise - a lie!
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