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Author Topic:   Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A)
14174dm
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Message 334 of 948 (781432)
04-04-2016 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by starlite
04-04-2016 2:10 PM


Working backwards
I get it - you're working backwards from the answer you want.
As a grad student I graded homework papers for students using a textbook with the answer ( question 14 = 1.68 m) in the back of the book. For some questions, the student had to assume a water temperature, usually 4C or 20C. at the beginning of the solution for properties of the water. If the temperature was different from the assumed temperature used by the book's author, the student's answer would be slightly off. Students would then start working backwards from the answer in the book but didn't change their assumptions at the beginning. From the initial assumption to the answer from the book required them to erase their correct work and make math errors somewhere in their solution.
You have your answer - biblical literalism. You are working backwards from the answer you want but you don't know how to work out the solution.
What is your evidence that time moves at different rates depending on location?
Do you have any concept of how that would look? What evidence you're looking for?

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14174dm
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Message 346 of 948 (781469)
04-04-2016 3:41 PM
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04-04-2016 2:39 PM


Re: Working backwards
We all work from somewhere!
If you start with the answer you want - humans are the most important thing in the universe - you get geocentrism, which is wrong because it doesn't fit all the facts. Geocentric model - Wikipedia
If you try to force the observed facts to your preconceived answer, you get geoheliocentrism - which is wrong because it doesn't fit all the facts. Tychonic system - Wikipedia
If you start with the facts and try to figure out the answer - the scientific method - you get heliocentrism - the most likely to be right because it fits the known facts. Heliocentrism - Wikipedia
If you are using the scientific method, you test your answer. For example a space probe like the Cassini probe interesting multiple planets as they move through space based on your calculations using the heliocentric model. Gravity assist - Wikipedia
Which specific facts related to the age of the universe do not fit the generally accepted science?
Edited by 14174dm, : Clarification
Edited by 14174dm, : Clarity

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