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thingamabob
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Message 459 of 948 (797645)
01-25-2017 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 389 by creation
01-23-2017 3:03 PM


Re: Quick word to the wise
Hi time,
time writes:
Thanks for the advice. I happen to know that science doesn't actually know what time is, though. So I don't expect a god reply on that one regardless of credentials.
Maybe we don't know what time is but let me try a definition I read on here somewhere.
Time is the measurement of duration between two or more events in existence.
Have fun,

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Message 521 of 948 (797719)
01-26-2017 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 470 by creation
01-25-2017 9:40 AM


Re: Quick word to the wise
Hi time
time writes:
The measure as seen where?
Time is the measurement between the events, regardless of where the events occur.
Mankind has determined what the units are that is used where he is at to express the length of duration measured, so as to satisfy his mind.
There is existence.
In that existence there are events that do not happen simultaneously.
Therefore there is duration between those events.
That would be true everywhere there was existence.
But that would not mean that the units of measurement would be the same everywhere unless someone decreed them to be as many here has done. Which does not make it so.
Enjoy

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thingamabob
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Message 550 of 948 (797767)
01-26-2017 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 530 by creation
01-26-2017 9:26 AM


Re: Quick word to the wise
Hi time
time writes:
Man experiences time in a certain way,
Could you explain how we experience time?
I can't see time. Ican't feel time. I can't smell time. Ican't hear time.
I do experience existence as I exist. I know there is duration as continual events take place in my existence.
time writes:
and it takes so much time for things to happen here.
Actually there is duration between events in existence that mankind
measures by something we have designated as time.
time writes:
In ancient days, and even today to some extent, the cycles of the sun and moon determine the units or days and months. The length of a day eventually became accepted as so many hours.
Exactly
time writes:
So, yes, man did fine tune and name the time units but did not invent time.
But mankind did invent how to measure the duration in existence between events they observed.
time writes:
Man works with created nature even today, with such things used for time measurement as radioactive decay.
How do you measure time?
What is time that you can measure it?
How do you measure radioactive decay?
The only things we can measure are length, width, height/depth and duration between events in existence.
That means you are measuring the radioactive decay of an object subjected to duration in existence.
When the Egyptians divided up the period it takes the earth to cause
a light period and a dark period to exist they used a base 12 numbering system. This gives us a 24h day made up of 60 minutes per hour (5x12) made up of 60 seconds (5x12) per minute etc..
So yes man designed a system to measure duration between events in existence.
Enjoy

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Message 573 of 948 (797847)
01-28-2017 2:30 AM
Reply to: Message 567 by creation
01-28-2017 1:32 AM


Re: Quick word to the wise
Hi time
time writes:
You get old. You take a train ride and it takes time. Everything takes time.
I do not experience time by getting old. I get old because I exist. There is duration in existence between events that can be measured with the system mankind has devised.
When I take a train ride there is duration between my boarding the train and my departure from the train. That duration can be measured with the system mankind has devised.
time writes:
Even if we did not measure it, time goes by.
What is time that it can go by?
There is duration in existence that can be measured with the system mankind has devised.
time writes:
How do you measure time?
What is time that you can measure it?
How do you measure radioactive decay?
You see how long they take.
What is the 'they' we are trying to see how long they take?
I have not seen anyone explain what time is that it can be measured.
I can measure the duration between events in existence.
time writes:
So you cannot measure time in the distant universe?
Since I cannot see, feel, smell, or hear time I don't know what I would be trying to measure, anywhere in the universe.
There are those that have posted about the duration between events being shorter the faster one travels.
time writes:
So yes man designed a system to measure duration between events in existence.
Those who believe in God attribute that to Him first.
As I understand it God defined a period of light as a day. He defined a dark period as a night. He further defined the evening of a light period and the morning following a dark period as a day. He left the rest up to mankind to figure out.
Enjoy

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