Overall it seems a preposterous waste of time, no meeting of minds, no development of argument, no increase of understanding or knowledge, just endless, repetitive posturing on both sides.
You are getting cynical in your old age Tangle, there is no end to the battle for truth in advertising and we must persevere.
The mind that is informed by reason above emotion will surely prevail but we need as many of those as we can get and you get them by pointing out the evidence.