Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A)

I am not really looking at people here, just ideas and models and arguments. If ideas are revealed to be false, people can change ideas, regardless of the beliefs and ideas they once had...one hopes.

Of course God set it up so man could see stars. They are made for us to see!Seeing a star does not tell us it's size or distance or true nature. Yes we have info in incoming light that tells us that it seems to have certain elements in it. What else stars may have that we cannot detect/see we do not know. What time and space there are like we can only guess at and what man has done is impose the realities of earth and area out there also. If something takes 4 minutes to happen here, in the light we have here from there...well, man assumed that it also took the same time there.Edited by creation, : No reason given.

Obviously it does not tell YOU anything. It tells the rest of us many things, just as if your different nature is your imaginary, fictional fantasy.Astronomers (and the rest of us) never consider your fantasy as reality. Thousands of papers about astrophysics discoveries are published every year and not one mentions your imaginary "change in nature." It's almost as if it doesn't exist.Repeating fiction does not convert it to reality. Without evidence your fantasies are doomed to the dustbin. Well, no shit Sherlock.

Faith seems to think that once a believer chooses to take a leap of faith and surrender their mind to the Spirit, the confusion clears and becomes evident. creation, do you feel this way or do you agree with the timed honored scientific discipline of evidence?

To be fair, does this apply to creationists as well as science-based evolutionists?

Huh?

Do you believe that God created the entire universe for us to see? Are we the central focus of Gods plan? Is God out there or is He in here with us? If so, how do we avoid anthropomorphizing God?

to clarify, Faith believes more along these lines....that the evidence follows the conclusion rather than the other way around.

And I repeat, huh? Why are you asking creation questions in a post to me and telling me about Faith's flawed reasoning?

Oops. Im sorry---I thought I was replying to the Lad. My bad.

OK, don't let it happen again.

Science tries to fit all things into it's little set of beliefs and rules.

Adam did not likely see all the universe. The visible stars, if I recall are only in the thousands. But the machinery of the stars and universe was for us, I would think. Perhaps one thing they somehow do is regulate time for us!? Seasons and times. Who knows?

Of course, to the extent that regardless of all this God's word remains true. Now if some believer thinks it happened one way, maybe they will learn it was actually different than that. I, for example stated my explorations into the origins and creation/evolution issues assuming that creation science so called of the day was correct. I now realize the flood year did not do it all, and deposit all layers...etc. ..But there was a flood!

The more one thinks that origin science used evidence rather than beliefs, that less chance they have of not being confused!