In the begining...... nothing.... unless infinite past.

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If you rest a ball on the table with no external force acting on that ball to move it, that ball should hold position. [...] if in the beginning there was nothing, then there should continue to be nothing. [...] if my car is green, it will stay green until someone changes it. [...] The only possible way for there to be something is if there was a physical law that said that something can exist.

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That's true in this universe. But isn't it possible that Newton's first law of motion and the first law of thermodynamics had no relevance before the Big Bang, that they were created along with the universe as we know it?

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Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm here to learn, and I know only that I know nothing.

Ok, I'll try this again. In your conclusion you state that "there is no way that anything will happen without something causing it to happen." This is true, according to natural laws. You say of laws: "At one point, there was nothing. No physical laws". If there were no laws before the Big Bang, then there's no reason to assume that events couldn't happen without cause, that objects couldn't move completely spontaneously. Do you follow?Whether there actually was a time (or time itself) before the Big Bang, and whether it makes any sense to speculate to what happened before Planck length/time are questions which I'll leave for others.

Even if he can't defend the conclusion of his original post, he still brought up some other ideas which could be addressed here, i.e. consciousness creating consciousness, and the "decision" to create the Universe 13 billion years ago rather than 50 years ago.