Misconceptions in Relativity

You probably want to take this question to the new Starlight thread.--Percy

Unless the task has some special appeal for you, I wouldn't waste your time analyzing inarticulate propositions. Hartnett never makes any effort to conform his work to the normal standards of science or even just consistency and clarity of thought. I don't see how pointing out how anyone's random meanderings are wrong has much value, unless slevesque wants to ask specific questions.Just my 2 cents. --Percy

Okay, Job, have fun! But seriously, I think it's quite a challenge. A critique would probably be difficult to follow for those of us here with a half decent background, but you have to make it simple enough for your target audience to understand. First you have to explain what Hartnett's actually saying, then what science actually says and why it's correct, and then why Hartnett is wrong. If all this can't be put in simplistic form at about the level of the pithy simplicity of the creationist thermodynamic argument (e.g., evolution requires increasing order, and 2LOT says order can never spring from disorder) then I don't think your point will be grasped. Worth a try, I guess, and good luck!--Percy

You're conflating two terms with different meanings. Dark energy is the name by which we refer to the unknown something responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe. Dark matter is the name by which we refer to the unknown something responsible for holding galaxies together.--Percy

I going to guess that language is getting in the way here. Carmeli is trying to reconcile cosmology with the Bible. The title of his paper is The First Six Days of the Universe, a purely Biblical reference. This is pure and simple creationism. Nothing could be more obvious. No other conclusion is possible. Carmeli is a creationist.--Percy

The problem is that Slevesque is trying to assess Carmeli who he doesn't understand against Cavediver who he doesn't understand. Since we don't want Slevesque to accept arguments based upon authority, the only solution is to bring Slevesque's comprehension level up to an adequate level. Since you stated that this would take eight years of study in math and physics, what can you really hope to accomplish here?If you want to make progress then you'll have to figure out how to put things in terms that Slevesque can understand while taking into account that Slevesque has at times exhibited that special kind of confidence possessed by those who do not see ignorance as an obstacle to forming judgments.--Percy

More information from The First Six Days of the Universe, this is from the conclusion: And the body of the paper discusses how each day in the Bible is explained cosmologically. The entire paper is pure unadulterated creationism.By the way, you have in other threads advocated a young Earth, yet Carmeli is clearly advocating an old Earth. This is from page 2: Gee, just like paleontology, geology, radiometric dating, cosmology, and all the rest of science tell us!I think it would be widely appreciated if you could resolve the contradiction in your advocacy for young dates in the Soft Tissue Surviving 65 Million Years? thread with the old dates you're advocating here. Maybe you could propose a thread where you could debate this with yourself. --PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.

I don't see the relevance of a discussion about who is what kind of evolutionist in a thread about cosmology, but just to correct a severe error: There is a very large group who believe in God and accept evolution while not seeing the need for reconciliation between the two (such as those like Carmeli), including myself.AbE: Just read your Message 53, could you not use the "Gen Reply" button when you're making a reply to a specific message? Thanks! --PercyEdited by Percy, : Add AbE comment.

Speed of light. It's a natural constant for the speed with which any part of the universe can influence any other part, and that includes gravity.--Percy

I think Slevesque knows what a citation is. English is not his first language, and I think he didn't know that "cite" is short for "citation."--Percy