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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 1 of 77 (386785)
02-23-2007 4:17 PM


Click on these links and view the interiors of the pyramids in Egypt:
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_4.html
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_5.html
Only the Great Pyramid has extensive ascending passages and other horizontal passages connected to them.
The remainder have no ascending passages and no network of passages as compared to the Great Pyramid.
Based on the above evidence we conclude that the Great Pyramid was built by persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam) and all the others are failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers.
If you disagee then how do you explain the interior differences?
How did Egypt lose the ability to erect marvelous ascending passages?
I seek satisfying explanations.
Ray

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02-23-2007 5:01 PM


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Message 3 of 77 (386808)
02-23-2007 7:01 PM
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Herepton writes:
If you disagee then how do you explain the interior differences?
Stargate SG-1 has a very good explanation for this. The great pyramid was originally built by Ra, a technologically advance immortal alien who posed as a god to the primitives of Earth. The great pyramid itself acted as a landing pad for Ra's mothership. After a rebellion on Earth and Ra left, later pharoahs wanted to immitate Ra so they had other pyramids built. However, since they could only rely on what they remembered when Ra was here, the later pyramids were not as sophisticated.
Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : Changed have to has... my grasp of the english language is little better than bush's.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 4 of 77 (386823)
02-23-2007 9:31 PM
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The great pyramid was originally built by Ra, a technologically advance immortal alien who posed as a god to the primitives of Earth.
The Egyptians are correct that a Deity oversaw construction, but we know that the Deity was the Biblical God based on the interior matching the foundational claims written in the Bible.
The great pyramid itself acted as a landing pad for Ra's mothership.
The land of Sirius (Africa, North Africa, Dogans) insist a divine-like person came from the star of the same name. How did these primitives know of a star that cannot be seen by the naked eye and was subsequently discovered to exist by modern astronomy? Genesis 6 says "the sons of God" AKA "intelligent beings" came down from heaven and conducted business on the Earth. That business, among other things, was the labor used to erect the GP. Both accounts confirm said event happened and both give important details of what may have happened in toto.
After a rebellion on Earth and Ra left, later pharoahs wanted to immitate Ra so they had other pyramids built.
Yes, the rebellion of the tower of Babel.
However, since they could only rely on what they remembered when Ra was here, the later pyramids were not as sophisticated.
Yes, the ensuing great flood separated them from their progenitors and their abilities.
Ray

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Message 5 of 77 (386825)
02-23-2007 9:58 PM
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02-23-2007 4:17 PM


A timeline
your first link is for pyramids built at the same time, and gives no indication of timeline.
the second link has the same problems.
also, don't forget that the egyptians started to build tombs w/o the pyramids. such as King Tut's. also, don't forget the temples they built.
here's a timeline of egyptian history.
http://www.wsu.edu:8000/~dee/EGYPT/TIMELINE.HTM
Take note that the Great Pyramids (Khufu's) are of the second generation of pyramid building. they did not start off with the greatest--they had a learning curve.
Temples come later, as do the tombs. Some of these are also very complex, such as
Temple of Karnak:
Karnak - Wikipedia
in other words, the biggest piece missing in your puzzle is the timeline. oh, and egypt has something like 80 to 110 pyramidal structures.
finally, as to losing and gaining technology:
this seems to happen many times in history. one need only look at europe and see how much has been lost from the classical era (greek and roman empires) to the medieval ages to now. we lost a lot of technical know-how from the classical to the medieval ages. since about the 1400s (and even more so during the 1600s onward) we've recovered and advanced.
oh, and I love the racism in your post
persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam)
and
failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers
you disgust me.

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Taz
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Message 6 of 77 (386834)
02-23-2007 11:58 PM
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02-23-2007 9:31 PM


Herepton writes:
The Egyptians are correct that a Deity oversaw construction, but we know that the Deity was the Biblical God based on the interior matching the foundational claims written in the Bible.
Or perhaps the Israelites copied the description from the egyptians, which were instructed by the alien?
The land of Sirius (Africa, North Africa, Dogans) insist a divine-like person came from the star of the same name. How did these primitives know of a star that cannot be seen by the naked eye and was subsequently discovered to exist by modern astronomy?
Further proof that the technologically advance alien Ra was here and instructed the primitives of Earth to build stuff for him.
Genesis 6 says "the sons of God" AKA "intelligent beings" came down from heaven and conducted business on the Earth. That business, among other things, was the labor used to erect the GP. Both accounts confirm said event happened and both give important details of what may have happened in toto.
Sounds to me like the "sons of god" were just more aliens.
Yes, the rebellion of the tower of Babel.
Sure.
Yes, the ensuing great flood separated them from their progenitors and their abilities.
Further proof that the alien Ra was here.

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Jon
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Message 7 of 77 (386836)
02-24-2007 12:47 AM
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02-23-2007 4:17 PM


Only the Great Pyramid has extensive ascending passages and other horizontal passages connected to them.
I wish I had my book on Egyptian pyramids with me. It shows a layout of the passages in the Step Pyramid at Saqqara (the first "pyramid" of Ancient Egypt). They are not nearly as large as the Great Pyramid, but they are still rather complex. Also, don't forget later tombs and pyramids. Many now exist either in the Valley of the Kings, or as heaps of sand that were once mighty pyramids. These contain writings of all sorts on the walls, something almost completely void in the Great Pyramid.
Based on the above evidence we conclude that the Great Pyramid was built by persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam) and all the others are failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers.
If you disagee then how do you explain the interior differences?
How did Egypt lose the ability to erect marvelous ascending passages?
Probably the best reason that the Egyptians could not continue their pyramid building on the scale as seen by Khufu and his children is because of the sheer cost. Imagine the dent that building the worlds most massive structures (at the time and still today) would put in the national wallet of Egypt?
Plus, consider how tempting that big white shiny limestone spear with its golden top would be to grave robbers. It became impossible to keep the grave robbers out of places like this; they were just too tempting. Size and power gave way to smaller and more well-hidden tombs, e.g., Valley of the Kings, where the king's body would be much harder to find. And, having all the tombs in one place helps cut down on the amount of security you need to guard them.
Now, as for your claim that the pyramids are built by descendants of Adam, it's got no proof. As Kuresu said, the Great Pyramid was one of the last of the mighty pyramids to be built. If the rest were copies, why did most of them come prior to the Great Pyramid? Also, we've seen how North Africans copy the Egyptians' idea: Nubian Pyramids. These Nubian Pyramids (Nubia is south of Ancient Egypt--which extended much farther south than it does today) were built around 2000 years after Khufu by non-Egyptians. If the Egyptians just wanted to keep copying what they had, they could've done it quite easily. The mud mounds that remain of most later pyramids, and the movement to the Valley of the Kings makes it pretty clear that the Egyptians were not very concerned with building large-scale pyramids anymore, and so changed their tune to adjust for security and economy.
Max

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Jon
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Message 8 of 77 (386838)
02-24-2007 1:03 AM
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02-23-2007 7:01 PM


I hope you are not serious.

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AnswersInGenitals
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Message 9 of 77 (386840)
02-24-2007 2:21 AM
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02-23-2007 4:17 PM


Who is not a descendant af Adam?
I've seen estimates that the great pyramid consumed over 10% of Egypt's gross domestic product for 20 years. In current terms of the US GDP, that would correspond to a cost of about $25 Trillion! The GP easily ranks as the most colossal and expensive flop in human history. It was supposed to secure the Pharaoh's body (his Ba) for all eternity, which was essential for the viability of the country. In actual fact, it fell a little shy of that goal. The pyramid was emptied of all its treasures within a few centuries. The Pharaoh's mummified body was probably used for firewood. Those passages that you are so enthralled with are ascending if you want to get out, but descending if you want to get in (to snatch some gold, for example). Also, the passages shown in those diagrams may not be all the passages, but just the passages so far discovered.
And, of course the great pyramid, as well as all other structures in Egypt, were built by the descendants of Adam. All humans, male, female, and those in-between, are descendants of Adam.
Ray, you never fail to amuse.

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Message 10 of 77 (386845)
02-24-2007 3:13 AM
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02-24-2007 1:03 AM


Jonicus writes:
I hope you are not serious.
Long live Ra!

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Message 11 of 77 (386846)
02-24-2007 3:24 AM
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Re: Who is not a descendant af Adam? :: I'm not
Those passages that you are so enthralled with are ascending if you want to get out, but descending if you want to get in (to snatch some gold, for example). Also, the passages shown in those diagrams may not be all the passages, but just the passages so far discovered.
ALL the passages leading to the King's Chamber are ascending. The standard pyramid plan at the time was to build a shaft leading down at an angle to a chamber carved out of the ground beneath the pyramid before it was even built. The Great Pyramid used the same scheme, but added the ascending passages and then blocked their entrance with stones.
The plan was not a bad one at all. If they would've finished the subterranean chamber, folks may never have thought to search the rest of the pyramid and might have concluded it was already plundered. This was, of course, the goal, to fool people into thinking it was already plundered and thus not waste more time. Word gets out though, and I doubt any of the builders would've hesitated to disclose the real location within the pyramid for a portion of the loot.
Max
Edited by Jonicus Maximus, : Grammar

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Message 12 of 77 (386899)
02-24-2007 3:16 PM
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02-24-2007 3:24 AM


Re: Who is not a descendant af Adam? :: I'm not
You are, of course, assuming that the in building the GP, whatever entity did the actual building first laid down the lowest course of stones, then laid the next course on top of that, etc. This ignores the real possibility that they first positioned the capstone, then jacked that up and laid the second top most layer, then jacked that up and inserted the next top most layer, etc., which makes all ascending appearing passages actually descending and vice versa. Of course, if a sufficiently adroit god built the pyramid, he/she would have avoided all the jacking up business and first positioned the capstone and subsequent stones in their required positions. The evidence that the great pyramid was built from the top down is overwhelming, but too extensive to list in a forum post. I will soon be publishing a book in which I detail exactly how the pyramid was built from the top down, and by whom, and will show how these revelations lead to the inevitable conclusion that evolutionistism/darwinistism is a false religion.

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Message 13 of 77 (386905)
02-24-2007 4:32 PM
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Re: Who is not a descendant af Adam? :: I'm not
You've really spun a yarn this time. There is evidence of ramps leading to other pyramids in Egypt. If they were building it from top down, they wouldn't have needed ramps. Secondly, the pyramid weighs somewhere around 6.5 million tons. I doubt they could've lifted that. I'm not even sure modern machinery could manage to lift that up all in one go.
And, even if it were built top down, the passages are still ascending. If you built your house from the top down, would you start saying you are descending the staircase as you go up to the top level? Ascending passages move away from the earth relative to the entrance; descending passages do just the opposite.
And lastly, even if you can somehow manage to prove all the things you've said as true, how will the building of the Great Pyramid show evolution to be a "false religion"?
Seriously, this is "quacking" me up
Max

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Message 14 of 77 (386926)
02-24-2007 7:44 PM
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Re: Who is not a descendant af Adam? :: I'm not
The piles of sand seen adjacent to some pyramids are nothing more than part of the "jacking up" mechanism: The pyramid is tilted up from one side and sand is shoveled under that side; the other side of the pyramid is then tilted up and sand stuffed under that side. The sand is then removed a bit at a time and replaced by the pyramid blocks. Isn't that the way you would build a 6.5 million ton pointy thing? (although, we should remember that stone weighed a lot less before the Great Flood, something I'll also cover in my forthcoming book.) If tilting up the great pyramid seems like a bit of a challenge, let's remember that Archimedes proposed pushing the moon around with a sufficiently long lever!
JonnyMacs writes:
And, even if it were built top down, the passages are still ascending.
A quick perusal of Wackipedia will show you that whether a passage is ascending or descending is entirely defined by which way your ass is facing while you are traversing said passage.
And lastly, even if you can somehow manage to prove all the things you've said as true, how will the building of the Great Pyramid show evolution to be a "false religion"?
This will be reviled revealed in my earth shattering and consciousness raising book, the publication of which will cause all evolutionarionismists to sink to their knees in supplication and beg forgiveness from the one true god. I will also demonstrate that any country that allows homosexuality is a bum nation in the sight of the lord.

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Message 15 of 77 (386933)
02-24-2007 8:22 PM
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02-24-2007 7:44 PM


Re: Who is not a descendant af Adam? :: I'm not
Isn't that the way you would build a 6.5 million ton pointy thing?
No, because that method is outrageously difficult and makes no sense. Why did the Egyptians level the ground before beginning the construction? And if they didn't first level the ground, setting the pyramid on uneven land would cause vertical cracks to be running through it wherever the ground bent.
A quick perusal of Wackipedia will show you that whether a passage is ascending or descending is entirely defined by which way your ass is facing while you are traversing said passage.
The passages are ascending from the perspective of someone entering the pyramid and traveling toward the King's Chamber.
This will be reviled revealed in my earth shattering and consciousness raising book, the publication of which will cause all evolutionarionismists to sink to their knees in supplication and beg forgiveness from the one true god. I will also demonstrate that any country that allows homosexuality is a bum nation in the sight of the lord.
You're a loon. I hope you aren't serious. When will this book be published, I cannot wait to get the first copy. Perhaps you can post the section in the book dealing with this subject so we don't have to wait for this debate to continue
Max
Edited by Jonicus Maximus, : Okay, Buster Brown, I'm on to you! No more of this teasing :-(

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